not much because ford gave us terrible flowing heads/intake manifolds. Sadly without digging into the motor you will NOT see large gains.
Keep in mind he was saying that it would not make a lick of difference when it fact it does, now it may not be a huge or moderate gain I agree but it's less restrictive than stock
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Seriously what he was saying was correct though. CAI and Exhaust really doesn't do much for our cars, I mean at all. All of our restrictions are at the intake manifolds and heads. There's no real restriction at the filter/intake tubing or the exhaust. In reality, buying a GT IS the cheaper way out for power, but, most people don't go farther than bolt-ons with their v6's...
not much because ford gave us terrible flowing heads/intake manifolds. Sadly without digging into the motor you will NOT see large gains.
True, I kinda jumped the gun and didn't clarify. The intake and heads are definitely the limiting factors, but thanks for reminding me. I was just saying that I noticed some gain with my CAI (nothing major).
BTW, I was looking at your profile: #1 Killer Ride, man! I like it - simple and clean! #2 Where did you get those headlights?! They are sweet! I'm looking for nice black headlights to match my tails.
And Forba, thanks for the info on gears. I want to maintain some driveability, so I will probably also do 3.73's.
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ROLLERS: XXR 006 black spoke with blue lip; 18x8.5 & 9.5; BFG KDW/2 245/40R18 & 275/35R18
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Keep in mind he was saying that it would not make a lick of difference when it fact it does, now it may not be a huge or moderate gain I agree but it's less restrictive than stock
just didn't want any misconceptions here.
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True, I kinda jumped the gun and didn't clarify. The intake and heads are definitely the limiting factors, but thanks for reminding me. I was just saying that I noticed some gain with my CAI (nothing major).
BTW, I was looking at your profile: #1 Killer Ride, man! I like it - simple and clean! #2 Where did you get those headlights?! They are sweet! I'm looking for nice black headlights to match my tails
Really what you're probably feeling is the throttle response is much better. There's definitely not enough there to feel power just from a CAI.
haha, those pictures are OLD. I really ought throw up new one's for how my car looks. The headlights are from CJ Pony Parts, I really do NOT recommend buying from them. This is my 3rd pair of headlights because they kept fogging over. If you buy them buy them from Late Model Restoration.
the car deff has a nicer growl to it with the intake. I didnt notice really any performance gain from it. I still lose to my Dad's miata.
Then again my dad autocross races for fun. I'm just getting into it.
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When you own a V6 stang 3.8, 3.9, or 4.2 stroker, You're part of something different. You don't rely on a V8 to do your driving. Instead you learn the V6. You tune and tweak until you see GT's falling behind you.Then when they ask "Is that a V8?" You simply respond with a rev that clearly states "I'm a V6" with a proud smile on your face. As your girlfriend sitting on the seat next to you calls you an idiot.
Really what you're probably feeling is the throttle response is much better. There's definitely not enough there to feel power just from a CAI.
Got'ya.
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haha, those pictures are OLD. I really ought throw up new one's for how my car looks. The headlights are from CJ Pony Parts, I really do NOT recommend buying from them. This is my 3rd pair of headlights because they kept fogging over. If you buy them buy them from Late Model Restoration.
I just put in some BBK Shorty chrome headers, and I notice that my car has a warmer tone to it, vibrates more solid, and looks great too. Go online and go to Youtube, out in your make and model and which cat back you wanna hear....worked great for me....I am going with MAC Truefit, tehn it is gonna sound like I want it because I have already heard so many catback online..good luck!!
I just put in some BBK Shorty chrome headers, and I notice that my car has a warmer tone to it, vibrates more solid, and looks great too. Go online and go to Youtube, out in your make and model and which cat back you wanna hear....worked great for me....I am going with MAC Truefit, tehn it is gonna sound like I want it because I have already heard so many catback online..good luck!!
the tone is different, yes, but there is little to no power gains over the stock headers, if he's to throw down the money for new headers they should be longtubes.
I put in some BBK Shorty headers...the car runs smoother and more solid. Has a warmer tone to it and rumbles on fast acceleration and climbing hills.
I suggest going on Youtube to find the Catback that you want...you can listen and see which setup you are looking for. Good luck!
One OEM manifold costs the about the same as the BBK shorties....my mechanic suggested I go with headers....they look 10X better...there is a diff in acceleration, vibration, tone, plus I did it my self, (mechanic wanted $550) which adds confidence to do future mods...I've heard the longtube headers, and I am not diggin' the sound sounds like a blaster and not very refined. Which is probably good for someone else.. I like the muffled sound better. There is more than just horsepower to consider. Why would I pay that money put on such an ugly manifold, if I can get BBK to bling up my engine bay?
Check out the pic wher the OEM broke....
OH, and I love how everyone SHOULD buy what you say, as your opinion is absolute?!? You sound like you have a V8! I would never put those long tube headers on my car.....my opinion...great to be American!
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i was actually thinking about headers even with the itter performance gain it would spice things up a little bit.
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When you own a V6 stang 3.8, 3.9, or 4.2 stroker, You're part of something different. You don't rely on a V8 to do your driving. Instead you learn the V6. You tune and tweak until you see GT's falling behind you.Then when they ask "Is that a V8?" You simply respond with a rev that clearly states "I'm a V6" with a proud smile on your face. As your girlfriend sitting on the seat next to you calls you an idiot.
One OEM manifold costs the about the same as the BBK shorties....my mechanic suggested I go with headers....they look 10X better...there is a diff in acceleration, vibration, tone, plus I did it my self, (mechanic wanted $550) which adds confidence to do future mods...I've heard the longtube headers, and I am not diggin' the sound sounds like a blaster and not very refined. Which is probably good for someone else.. I like the muffled sound better. There is more than just horsepower to consider. Why would I pay that money put on such an ugly manifold, if I can get BBK to bling up my engine bay?
Check out the pic wher the OEM broke....
OH, and I love how everyone SHOULD buy what you say, as your opinion is absolute?!? You sound like you have a V8! I would never put those long tube headers on my car.....my opinion...great to be American!
Shorty headers are a direct aftermarket replacement for the stock headers which are ALSO shorty headers. Your case is probably the only reason to buy shorty headers as they do NOT provide any performance gains and dyno's have proven this. 94-98's see a loss in performance for aftermarket shorty headers because the factory headers are designed so well. 99-04 may see a slight gain at best because the headers that ford used on 99-04 were of terrible quality.
I'm not saying he should buy longtubes, excuse me if I look at everything from a performance orientated standpoint. The difference in power between longtubes and shorties are phenomenal and with the correct muffler setup it WILL sound good.
but go ahead and "bling" up your sixxer, LOL. And no, I don't have a v8, I have my sixxer and just trying to advise against spending useless money on something that would provide any performance gain. I would ONLY buy shorty headers if I had a manifold leak and still wanted to pass smog. Otherwise I'd straight up buy longtubes, performance overrules.
When you own a V6 stang 3.8, 3.9, or 4.2 stroker, You're part of something different. You don't rely on a V8 to do your driving. Instead you learn the V6. You tune and tweak until you see GT's falling behind you.Then when they ask "Is that a V8?" You simply respond with a rev that clearly states "I'm a V6" with a proud smile on your face. As your girlfriend sitting on the seat next to you calls you an idiot.
yes, but, you can also by a mid-pipe with catalytic converters on it.
BTW, if you do get rid of your cats, take them to Metal recycling place, you'll get a LOT of money for those cats.
Do you know a good company that makes longtubes? And yeah... gotta love all those precious metals in the cats!
Makes ya wonder about emissions control: gov't invents "The Greenhouse Effect", makes you limit your emissions, and then you have to use expensive materials to filter out pollutants!
3.9Vert - I love that quote in your sig!! The girlfriend part is clutch.
I was just saying that I noticed some gain with my CAI (nothing major).
I like it - simple and clean! #2 Where did you get those headlights?! They are sweet! I'm looking for nice black headlights to match my tails.
and my 1st baby on the way... 
