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Any Suggestions? Turbo or Supercharged?

It's been a while since I've been on here. I'm having a bit of a dillema figuring out which route should I go for my whitepony. Forced-Induction or Non-Naturally Aspirated?

So far she's got some mods done:

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What I want to do is get a pair of long tube headers, and an LSD (FRPP) with a 4:10 gear ratio (should be installed by Christmas!)

Alright before I decide which route to go, I'd like to have a 4.2L Stroker kit with forged internals, P&P Upper/Lower Intake & Heads with a new cam (the cam is something I'll have to figure out which spec will fit). By then, I should already have my JMod and a stall torque converter installed.

I don't like to confused people, but for anybody out there what's a good route to take once I get all those parts installed? I'm not trying to be faster than all the GTs and Camaros out there. I just want my little V6 to be on top of it's class before I get my 1990 GT.

*Since the supercharger has it's own pulley, wouldn't it rob horsepower from the crank? As to the turbo, I love the whole idea of how it works, I just don't want an import sound.

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Installing a supercharger is going to boost you up over 100hp... Adding the pulley to your drive system isn't going to "rob" horsepower. That's like saying "if I add a nitrous system to my car, am I going to lose overall power because of the weight of the bottle?"
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Installing a supercharger is going to boost you up over 100hp... Adding the pulley to your drive system isn't going to "rob" horsepower. That's like saying "if I add a nitrous system to my car, am I going to lose overall power because of the weight of the bottle?"
It's a cheaper setup going supercharged too, right? So what are you trying to say...

Go supercharged?
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No, I think what he is trying to say, is that any power loss to running the blower is going to be replaced by the extra power the engine will make with it, then plus some.

I love turbo Set ups. I had it on a GM V6 and on a Powerstroke. I love the sound, and feel of the turbo... be it also robs horsepower by choking the exhaust. However, again the boost more than makes up for this power loss.

Either will work well, and you can make more hp with a turbo, especially if you use a intercooler set up. then you also have to start thinking about what kind of blower you would use. There are many types... If yours is more of a driver and you want to get a lot of low end puch, go with the blower. If you will be drag racing it more and keeping it in the upper RPMs most of the time. Go with the Turbo.
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If you go turbo you are more than likely not going to be able to use those headers or the long tubes you want Unless you get the sts rear mount kit.
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No, I think what he is trying to say, is that any power loss to running the blower is going to be replaced by the extra power the engine will make with it, then plus some.

I love turbo Set ups. I had it on a GM V6 and on a Powerstroke. I love the sound, and feel of the turbo... be it also robs horsepower by choking the exhaust. However, again the boost more than makes up for this power loss.

Either will work well, and you can make more hp with a turbo, especially if you use a intercooler set up. then you also have to start thinking about what kind of blower you would use. There are many types... If yours is more of a driver and you want to get a lot of low end puch, go with the blower. If you will be drag racing it more and keeping it in the upper RPMs most of the time. Go with the Turbo.
Sure I'd love to get on the strip with her, but I'd like to keep her as one of my daily drivers. I'll probably hit up the strip occasionally. I've had the idea to go supercharged in the beginning, I was just thinking crazy when I wanted to go with the m112 on my little V6.

It's too much work, and so far, there are only a few that pulled it off. I don't think there's a kit out there yet. Gearheads obviously managed to create their own...

Anyway, I'll just stick with a decent blower that'll give me a gain of 100hp+, and I'll be one happy camper.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are there a lot of TurboStangs out there? It seems to me that going supercharged is very popular for our ponies... Why is that?
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If you go turbo you are more than likely not going to be able to use those headers or the long tubes you want Unless you get the sts rear mount kit.
That makes sense, that idea must've slipped my mind...

I'm going to stick with my first decision, which was made in the beginning, and go with a blower.
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Sure I'd love to get on the strip with her, but I'd like to keep her as one of my daily drivers. I'll probably hit up the strip occasionally. I've had the idea to go supercharged in the beginning, I was just thinking crazy when I wanted to go with the m112 on my little V6.

It's too much work, and so far, there are only a few that pulled it off. I don't think there's a kit out there yet. Gearheads obviously managed to create their own...

Anyway, I'll just stick with a decent blower that'll give me a gain of 100hp+, and I'll be one happy camper.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are there a lot of TurboStangs out there? It seems to me that going supercharged is very popular for our ponies... Why is that?
Hey Pony, long time no see...... Most people go with the superchargers simply because it is easier. Tuning is easier and you don't have to punch a hole in your oil pan for a return line like a turbo. I'm not sure about your post above when you said you don't ant it to sound like an import. Maybe you should list to some of the sound clips first. Here is a copy of my Son's dyno run with a turbo running 15psi on a V6. It put down 448rwhp. The thing sounds like a rocketship going down the track......

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Hey Pony, long time no see...... Most people go with the superchargers simply because it is easier. Tuning is easier and you don't have to punch a hole in your oil pan for a return line like a turbo. I'm not sure about your post above when you said you don't ant it to sound like an import. Maybe you should list to some of the sound clips first. Here is a copy of my Son's dyno run with a turbo running 15psi on a V6. It put down 448rwhp. The thing sounds like a rocketship going down the track......

Hello Good Friend,

Yes it has been a while. Yeah, considering that superchargers are much more of an easier setup, I'm going to go forth and decide that this little Pony will have herself a nice blower. Probably with a compression ratio between 8.2-8.5, perhaps?

I've been knowing that some Turbos out there sound like imports with all the blow-off valves shooting out and what not, maybe it's the idea that the only Turbocharged vehicles that I have seen were only on imported cars. lol I don't know.

So, what type of supercharger should I go with? I know there are different types out there...

*I'm taking my ASE for Brake Systems & Steering/Suspension this November 13th...Any suggestions Tom?

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Nothing beats the sound of turbo whine and a blow of valve on any kind of vehicle. Except a kenne bell. Also feals awsome when the boost hits.
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Nothing beats the sound of turbo whine and a blow of valve on any kind of vehicle. Except a kenne bell. Also feals awsome when the boost hits.
See, when that certain rpm hits the turbo kicks in...I love that pull to the back of the seat feeling!

What would win in a 1/4mi. between two evenly modified cars, the supercharged or the turbo?
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That would probally be a drivers race.
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What if the driver's were evenly modified? lol
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Is there any other supercharger system besides Vortech and Procharger for the 2001 V6 Mustang?

I've read that the V-2 Vortech can only output between 200-280 rwhp...I was looking more along the lines of 375-415 rwhp.
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In my opinion procharger makes the best centrifical kits out there. the p1sc unit is self contained unlike the others so you dont have to tap into the oil pan. The 9 psi kit gives you 60 to 65% gains and has a 2 core front mount intercooler.
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