You have expensive tastes in classics... lol The 96-98 Cobra's are my favorites as well. They have monster heads and react amazingly well to charging of any kind. lol Their suspension set up is decent stock but the 99 and 01 is better and has better weight distribution.
A coworker has the 2001 and I know its better but there is something about the looks of the 96 Cobra that gets me. Somebody else might be able to confirm this. I believe the 99-04s have a smaller turn radius compared to the 94-98s. Last time I checked, I could get in to a Pantera for around 35k which is 7 out 10 on the condition scale.
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"not good advice" Well aren't you the little expert...
Yes , I know a few things about Mustangs, and other cars too having been restoring and working on them for over 35 years.
Porsche, Pantera, Jaguar, Daimler, Corvette, and a couple of hemi motors too are just a few that come to mind, so Mustangs are ok, just nothing special.
Don't get wound up over terminology, I would expect you would understand that fast is a relative term.
I just mean that if you are going to build a car for the track or drag racing etc it would be better to begin with a V8 rather than a V6. Keep the V6 for tranportation.
Would you agree?
+1 Hemi
I am only doing enough changes to my '03 3.8 to get a 1/1 ratio of hp to cubes. It's my daily driver. I'll the hp to when I find another '66 Coupe.
Hi.
"not good advice" Well aren't you the little expert...
Yes , I know a few things about Mustangs, and other cars too having been restoring and working on them for over 35 years.
Porsche, Pantera, Jaguar, Daimler, Corvette, and a couple of hemi motors too are just a few that come to mind, so Mustangs are ok, just nothing special.
Don't get wound up over terminology, I would expect you would understand that fast is a relative term.
I just mean that if you are going to build a car for the track or drag racing etc it would be better to begin with a V8 rather than a V6. Keep the V6 for tranportation.
Would you agree?
John
I disagree... A V6 weighs much less than a V8, especially in a Mustang when you are comparing the OHV 3.8L to the iron block OHC 4.6L. Yes, a V8 is generally better for making more power for straight line racing. But, a V6 gives a much better weight distribution than a V8 allows for in road racing.
Fast is very relative depending on the person, I would guess that most of the V6 guys in here would think that a PI GT is "fast" or an 05-09 GT is "fast", those are not nearly fast cars in my book but oh well. lol
It is a great idea to do this swap if you have the time and the money. If I owned a 1994 Mustang and was going to do ANY engine swap that was not the original 3.8 V6 I would drop a 5.0L into it since they were used in those cars and it wouldn't take much more work than swapping to a newer 3.8 V6.
wrong, split port swap is a hell of a lot simplier than a v8 swap. please don't tell people things and get them excited about something that is more complicating than you say it is.
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Hi.
"not good advice" Well aren't you the little expert...
Yes , I know a few things about Mustangs, and other cars too having been restoring and working on them for over 35 years.
Porsche, Pantera, Jaguar, Daimler, Corvette, and a couple of hemi motors too are just a few that come to mind, so Mustangs are ok, just nothing special.
Don't get wound up over terminology, I would expect you would understand that fast is a relative term.
I just mean that if you are going to build a car for the track or drag racing etc it would be better to begin with a V8 rather than a V6. Keep the V6 for tranportation.
Would you agree?
John
i don't agree with that statement, yes v8s come out of the factory faster, and are easier to make power with but with the right build and enough money, the v6 is a good platform to build and dominate in the 1/4 miles. take shinerstang for example and his 10 sec v6. and i believe he will be in the 9s soon enough as soon as he practices his driving more.
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I would not suggest swapping a V8 in place of the V6 either. I suggested not doing anything to the V6 except driving it. They are perfectly fine as is.
My point is why put a lot of money and time into a V6 when as you state, "v8s come out of the factory faster, and are easier to make power".
I just hate to see guys throw a lot of money at something when there are other alternatives. You have to look at the big picture too, what is the goal, a project, a race car or transportation?
That is my opinion, after all he asked for opinions, I shouldn't be lambasted for it!
My personal opinion is that it takes far too much work to properly turn a V6 car into a V8. If you really want a V8 then sell the V6 car and buy the V8 car.
My personal plan is to swap in a 2001+ 4.2L from a F150. Yot not only get a few more cubes but you also get forged internals. This lends itself to adding any type of F/I. While I realize you can't go crazy with any stock based V6 Ford engine, I would be overjoyed with 250RWHP in my car with this engine a say a 50-75HP shot of nitrous. Just my personal plan, but it is a helluva lot cheaper than any V8 swap could be.
Wait im just reading and im no expect like you guys but does the gt cost like 4k more =/ ? wouldnt that balance out things? when modding a v6? im not bashing or anything just curious. Plus from what i read and seen doesnt a gt v8 make times like 9.7 and 10.2 etc etc... with like 700hp? when the v6 makes it with 600? wouldnt that make them equel regarding price and power? or does the 4-5k more make no big difference in value between them?
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If you do the same mods to a V8 that you did to a V6 he V8 would always win. The V8 will always have more torque making it almost always likely to bat the V6 even if they have the same HP.
THe biggest reason for selling the V6 to buy a GT is that you don't have any headaches at all when the job is done. Unless you are doing the swap yourself, a V6 to V8 swap in a 97+ Mustang going from a 3.8L to a 4.6L will cost you well over $5K to have a shop do it and do it right. You can usually find a used GT within $2K of the same cost of a same model year V6 car. Your numbers are a touch out of whack.
Hi.
I would not suggest swapping a V8 in place of the V6 either. I suggested not doing anything to the V6 except driving it. They are perfectly fine as is.
My point is why put a lot of money and time into a V6 when as you state, "v8s come out of the factory faster, and are easier to make power".
I just hate to see guys throw a lot of money at something when there are other alternatives. You have to look at the big picture too, what is the goal, a project, a race car or transportation?
That is my opinion, after all he asked for opinions, I shouldn't be lambasted for it!
Good luck.
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