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Old 10-05-2009   #16 (permalink)
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He already answered this... Yes, you need a new K-member.
He didn't answer the question... You do not need to do a k member swap, you can swap motor mounts... You could also just swap the k members between the two cars...

I have seen you answers lately and you seem to think you know a lot more than you do... I remember before I stopped coming here that people were respectful. Not anymore it seems. I guess everyone knows everything about Mustangs now...
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New to the site from CMOC, thought i would share the swap notes i've found for anyone interested in it to give ya an idea as to what your looking at.

article on a 3.8-5.0 swap. not Exactly what you were looking for, and notes on the 94 body. But here it is

V-8 Engine Swap - 5.0 Mustang & Super Fords Magazine


Question for 95(ish)6er's out there, Bad hesitation in first gear getting a roll going, or when giving a bite of gas when at idle clutch disengaged, EGR valve? or EGR controller?? or what should i be looking at?
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He didn't answer the question... You do not need to do a k member swap, you can swap motor mounts... You could also just swap the k members between the two cars...

I have seen you answers lately and you seem to think you know a lot more than you do... I remember before I stopped coming here that people were respectful. Not anymore it seems. I guess everyone knows everything about Mustangs now...
My apologies about recent remarks - unfortunately, more knowledgable guys seem to not be responding to as many questions (like before), so I try to reiterate what I've learned from these forums.
You are correct - I don't know about V6 to V8 conversions: but we get the question so many dang times, it really doesn't matter how anyone answers. And as far as the K-member swap, you just said "You don't need to, but you could"?!? So do the motor mounts attach to the K-member? (I honestly don't know.) If so, you will need to swap part of the K-member... in other words, "new K-member" (even if just part is different), like I said.
If you see my mistakes - please correct me. I am willing to have a discussion and learn. (05Horse already had a chat with me, and we came to an understanding). But I do know a lot more than you might think - just because it's not on my car doesn't mean I haven't researched and learned about...
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i personally wouldnt do the swap, and dont have the knowledge on everythin you would need to change. If you have plenty of money, and are looking for a challenge, y dont you modd your 6. They can be made plenty fast, and with the money you will spend swapping the motor, your v6 will be faster than the 8.
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My apologies about recent remarks - unfortunately, more knowledgable guys seem to not be responding to as many questions (like before), so I try to reiterate what I've learned from these forums.
You are correct - I don't know about V6 to V8 conversions: but we get the question so many dang times, it really doesn't matter how anyone answers. And as far as the K-member swap, you just said "You don't need to, but you could"?!? So do the motor mounts attach to the K-member? (I honestly don't know.) If so, you will need to swap part of the K-member... in other words, "new K-member" (even if just part is different), like I said.
If you see my mistakes - please correct me. I am willing to have a discussion and learn. (05Horse already had a chat with me, and we came to an understanding). But I do know a lot more than you might think - just because it's not on my car doesn't mean I haven't researched and learned about...
Depending on the year, the 94-95 is much easier to swap a 5.0 into a V6 body, the 96+ is much easier to do a 4.6L. The k-members are different and the mountings are different for the engines. You can change the motor mounts from the two engines and they should work to mount in the bay. How do you swap out part of the k member? As far as I know all Mustangs have single piece K members... Yes, you can swap out the whole k member or even get a new tubular one(ideal).

I understand what you mean. People seem to think that since I own an SN95 V6 I have no idea what speed is or anything about V8's... I would wager that I know more about V8's than 90% of V8 owners. lmao I know a lot about a lot of different cars. I like everything from Hyundai's/Kia's to Aston's/SSC's. lol
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So do you need to change the K-member? Or is that you can change the K-member... I'm confused, and it seems you are going back and forth. Is it cuz each swap (5.0 into 94-95 & 4.6 into 4.6+) has different needs: one swaps K-members and the other doesn't need to? Please clarify, if you don't mind.

But yes I agree: 94-95s work with 5.0s and 96+ with the 4.6. Personally, I wouldn't do either.
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So do you need to change the K-member? Or is that you can change the K-member... I'm confused, and it seems you are going back and forth. Is it cuz each swap (5.0 into 94-95 & 4.6 into 4.6+) has different needs: one swaps K-members and the other doesn't need to? Please clarify, if you don't mind.

But yes I agree: 94-95s work with 5.0s and 96+ with the 4.6. Personally, I wouldn't do either.
If you are swapping a 5.0 into a 94-95 you just need to swap motor mounts from the two. If you are doing a 96-04 then the same applies. You can swap the k members if you really want to but it is not required. I have not been jumping around, I have been saying the same thing. I said that ideally you would want a tubular k member but not all of us are rich enough to buy tubular everything either. The k members differ for 94-95/96+ because of the engine difference. If you want to swap a 5.0 into a 96+ regardless of what engine then you will need to do a k member swap no matter what same with a 4.6L into a 94-95 if I am not mistaken. I do not here too many people doing a 4.6L into 94-95 though.
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My son has a 1997 Mustang with a 3.8L V6 and were thinking of swapping out with a 5.0 from a 1987 Lincoln Town Car, all components are working on this donor car. How much modifing will have to be done to the motor mounts,transmission mounts ect.? The car already has shorty headers, Magnaflow exhaust and cold intake air system-What more can be done to get more power out of the V6?
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no he didnt really answer it...sry dont wana sound rude but he said for a 5.0 not a 4.6 and 94-98 not 99-04 diffrent motor and diffrent year, i keep hearing from some shops around here and say you dont and some say you do.... so does anyone know if u got to in a 99 and u are using a 4.6
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i have a 4.6 and i was wondering if anyone has a list of parts that needs to be changed when doing a motor swap from the 3.8 to the 4.6
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If you are swapping a 5.0 into a 94-95 you just need to swap motor mounts from the two. If you are doing a 96-04 then the same applies. You can swap the k members if you really want to but it is not required. I have not been jumping around, I have been saying the same thing. I said that ideally you would want a tubular k member but not all of us are rich enough to buy tubular everything either. The k members differ for 94-95/96+ because of the engine difference. If you want to swap a 5.0 into a 96+ regardless of what engine then you will need to do a k member swap no matter what same with a 4.6L into a 94-95 if I am not mistaken. I do not here too many people doing a 4.6L into 94-95 though.
The problem here is too many people asking about different swaps, and not being clear about what exactly they are doing. So instead of getting on my case because I don't know which K-member needs to be swapped, maybe you could clearly and concisely name what parts are needed for each kind of swap: 5.0 into 94-95, then again into 96+, but also the 4.6 into 96+ and even back to 94-95, or keep going to pre-93s (heck, somebody might want to do it...)

But since you didn't, here's the summary everyone was looking for (concerning K-members & motor mounts only):
5.0 into 94-95: swap motor mounts
5.0 into 96+: swap K-member and motor mounts
4.6 into 94-95: swap motor mounts and (probably) K-member; rarely done
4.6 into 96+: swap motor mounts
Ideally: get a new tubular K-member.

cmauer -- Does any version of the Mustang already have this tubular K-member: Cobra, Shelby, etc? What else is needed for these swaps?
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The problem here is too many people asking about different swaps, and not being clear about what exactly they are doing. So instead of getting on my case because I don't know which K-member needs to be swapped, maybe you could clearly and concisely name what parts are needed for each kind of swap: 5.0 into 94-95, then again into 96+, but also the 4.6 into 96+ and even back to 94-95, or keep going to pre-93s (heck, somebody might want to do it...)

But since you didn't, here's the summary everyone was looking for (concerning K-members & motor mounts only):
5.0 into 94-95: swap motor mounts
5.0 into 96+: swap K-member and motor mounts
4.6 into 94-95: swap motor mounts and (probably) K-member; rarely done
4.6 into 96+: swap motor mounts
Ideally: get a new tubular K-member.

cmauer -- Does any version of the Mustang already have this tubular K-member: Cobra, Shelby, etc? What else is needed for these swaps?
lmao You can try and turn it around on me I suppose...

Where did anyone ask for a list of k member swaps? lmao

No, no Mustang that I know of comes with a tubular unit, or tubular anything for that matter. Tubular is amazing, strong, lightweight and better looking imo. They are much more expensive to manufacture than a box or steel k member so that is why they are not common equipment. Nothing else is needed for a k member swap that I know of. New mounts are generally recommended whenever you swap an engine but that should be common sense, kind of like don't use the same bolts over when doing a large project.
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Great info. I guess we will be in touch, I still have more questions and it sounds like you could be alot of help! Again Thanks
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Great info. I guess we will be in touch, I still have more questions and it sounds like you could be alot of help! Again Thanks
its really just stuff ive picked up from what other people have said in the past im no expert by any means lol.. there is definitely alot you can do with a v6 mustang.. and those are just the things i could think of off the top of my head.. just do alot of reading on this site and you'll find them all floating around here and there
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i have already put a chip, Cold Air intake and true duals , its not slow right now and its not fast .... just want a v8 and since the body is good and everything y get rid of the body to get one that i have no clue what someone has done to it or if its good or bad or what. the v8 will not be a stock v8 it will be modified before it is put in and i have already got prices for alot of the stuff i need and its really not that bad since me and a few friends are doing it
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