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Ok, I've educated myself all about engines n such. I still know noting about exhaust. Could someone please edumacate me?
From what I think I may possibly know the exhaust starts with "headers", then goes catayalic converters (spelling), Then Mufflers? then out to the tip???

So If Im right (wich I'm sure I'm not) What needs upgraded? http://www.rpmoutlet.com/musv6ypcb.htm#1 What would this kit do? Should I get new headers with those too??? And can I really put them in myself?

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You have the assembly down. I doubt that the exhaust in that link will ever add 15 rwhp.
it's true dual which means you need and X or H pipe to hook it up to the cats (catylitic converters) and up to the headers.

This is nice for engines producing a good amount pressure in the engine, something our stock v6's dont do too well.

It will let you engine breath better dual exhaus so it lessens stress, all good. but you might loose too much backpressure with true dual and lose power. I did true dual with an H pipe, and switching gears seemed effort less which was nice but I do think it took away from the response of the engine like it could breath too much.

You do not need to replace your headers unless you are looking for like 300 + hp out of the engine, the stock ones are fine

keep the cats on

Dual exhaust on a v6 looks good more than helps performance for the most part.
so it depends on what you plan on doing to the engine to upgrade the exhaust.

Say you super chrage it, then true dual with H or X pipe is that way to go.
Say just stock engine, maybe Under drive pullies or CAI, then go with a sing to dual exhaust kit, it will keep back pressure let the engine breathe and keep power and might even gain a bit


So what you really can do Is buy one of these kits, if it says bolt on, to stock bolts then yes you can do this in the comfort of your own driveway. might have to weld hangers in though :\ in any case just get a nice kit bring it to a shop and have them put it in.

It usually hooks up or welds on after the cats so the cats need no modifying or the headers, the mufflers come with a kit or you can buy different pies and mufflers seperate.

all prefrernce.

What are you planning to do to the engine and I can give you a more what you are looking for answer because the options with exhaust can become pretty vast
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Pullies for sure. I allready have a CAI. Maybe Roller Rocker arms or cams If I can find out more about them. I was going to top it all off with a Diablo Predator tuner. Which brings another question. Is that thing too complex/advanced for me and my car? Or should I go with the Diablo Delta and simplify. Because I wanted to rainse the speed limiter and put Mach1 Gauges in.
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I dunno about the chips I never did em. but tiwht those small engine mods, it doesnt matter you can do whatever you want with the exhaust your car alreay pushes out 190 hp and with those mods prolly looking at 200-210 hp. that's not bad I mean hell the 94-95 GT only had 215 hp and Hpipes. so you can do any kit you like none will hurt in my opinion.
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yeah but I don't want to spend money on something that isn't going to help and I really dont' want to spend any money on something that might hurt!
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I think I might get a C & L 73mm Mass Air meter too.
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I dont mess around with the mass air, that's just me, bad luck with engines it seems anything I do seems to **** em up, but im gonna blame this one on the computer lol
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I think I might get a C & L 73mm Mass Air meter too.
Not compatible with your CAI.
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I dunno about the chips I never did em. but tiwht those small engine mods, it doesnt matter you can do whatever you want with the exhaust your car alreay pushes out 190 hp and with those mods prolly looking at 200-210 hp. that's not bad I mean hell the 94-95 GT only had 215 hp and Hpipes. so you can do any kit you like none will hurt in my opinion.
Don't need chips until you start modifying cams. Unless you want to switch to Premium Unleaded . ..
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You have the assembly down. I doubt that the exhaust in that link will ever add 15 rwhp.
it's true dual which means you need and X or H pipe to hook it up to the cats (catylitic converters) and up to the headers.

This is nice for engines producing a good amount pressure in the engine, something our stock v6's dont do too well.

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You do not need to replace your headers unless you are looking for like 300 + hp out of the engine, the stock ones are fine

keep the cats on

Dual exhaust on a v6 looks good more than helps performance for the most part.
so it depends on what you plan on doing to the engine to upgrade the exhaust.

Say you super chrage it, then true dual with H or X pipe is that way to go.
Say just stock engine, maybe Under drive pullies or CAI, then go with a sing to dual exhaust kit, it will keep back pressure let the engine breathe and keep power and might even gain a bit


So what you really can do Is buy one of these kits, if it says bolt on, to stock bolts then yes you can do this in the comfort of your own driveway. might have to weld hangers in though :\ in any case just get a nice kit bring it to a shop and have them put it in.

It usually hooks up or welds on after the cats so the cats need no modifying or the headers, the mufflers come with a kit or you can buy different pies and mufflers seperate.

all prefrernce.

What are you planning to do to the engine and I can give you a more what you are looking for answer because the options with exhaust can become pretty vast

here's a vicious debate re: need for X or H-pipes.

So far H&X advocates are winning on the dyno.

The real key is to limit the DIAMETER of the pipes. 2.25 is best . .. unless you're going to some sort of poiwer adder.
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I'm from the old school (1965 fastback,289 hi-po), so forgive my ignorance. But, what do you do with the O2 sensors when you put a dual exhaust kit on an SN95? I've purchased a '95 coupe for a daily driver and I'm working on some improvements to blow away some of these imports with the "bumble-bee fart" mufflers.

Do you retap holes and use the sensors, or is there a way to bypass them?
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I believe for our model there is a MAF Delete 94-98 found on Dallas Mustangs that will bypass the 02 senors codes because they are only one one side of the cats and the computer wont put a check engine light on.

www.dallasmustang.com ? I think...
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I have 4 sensors. The two in the manifolds and the two after the cats. Is there a bypass for that?

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Yeah I think there is because it's always after and not before anything. lemme check.

Garrr I'm an idiot they are not MAF Deletes lol I knew that didnt sound right.

MIL Eliminators or MIL Deletes.

But.... I can find one for 94-95 I found 87-93 and 96-2004 thats really odd why isnt there one for our model..... Maybe someone knows that answer but maybe you can search better with know it's MIL Eliminators
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I've purchased a '95 coupe for a daily driver and I'm working on some improvements to blow away some of these imports with the "bumble-bee fart" mufflers.

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anyway, i think all v6's come with 4 o2 sensors, and the '96 mil eliminators should work fine. give dallasmustang a call or email them.
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