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I was just wondering, would one of those cheep cai off of e-bay be better than the stock intake with a K&N filer?
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my advice is to stay away from all metal/chrome cai's. the metal HEATS up,thus cancelling out the whole "COLD air intake" theory. go with a plastic setup like K&N or demolet(formerly densecharger). the factory intake isn't that bad with a K&N and the air silencer removed.
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i have an ebay cai, but i bought it because i had the stock intake and filter. looks really good, and does its job, but badass is right, they heat up pretty quick. do you thinbk if i were to use some of the insulating tape stuff it would help keep the pipe cool?
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my advice is to stay away from all metal/chrome cai's. the metal HEATS up,thus cancelling out the whole "COLD air intake" theory. go with a plastic setup like K&N or demolet(formerly densecharger). the factory intake isn't that bad with a K&N and the air silencer removed.
The air silencer? Is that the funnel like thing that goes into the fenderwell?
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The air silencer? Is that the funnel like thing that goes into the fenderwell?
yup, thats it
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The ebay cai is well worth it for the money unless you can afford the MAC or BBK then go for it. I'd rather spend the ~$70 difference towards pulleys, or gears.
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The ebay cai is well worth it for the money unless you can afford the MAC or BBK then go for it. I'd rather spend the ~$70 difference towards pulleys, or gears.
the e-bay CAI's don't give you any more hp than just switching to a K&N filter. The filter alone will get you 5-7 hp, the same as the e-bay CAI's.

To outperform the nominal K&N Filter, you'll need either a Demolet, or the FIPKII.
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The ebay cai is well worth it for the money unless you can afford the MAC or BBK then go for it. I'd rather spend the ~$70 difference towards pulleys, or gears.

bbk and mac cai's aren't worth a shlt, in my opinion. they are metal (chrome). they heat up in a matter of minutes. how do you have a COLD air intake, if it the chrome pipe HEATS up in a matter of minutes. all the "cold" air passing through the chrome pipe just heats up as it passes through the un it. they are a joke and are for cosmetics only. plus both BBK and MAC cai's have been known to cause stangs to run lean. you need to go with a PLASTIC cai! even after an hour of driving, the plastic still isn't hot. the good plastic kits are www.demolet.com (densecharger), K&N fipk, or jlt. if you are not going to buy a plastic kit, just drop the replacement K&N filter in your stock setup and remove the silencer. case closed, end of story!
i have a densecharger in my cobra and noticed a good increase in lower end torque/hp. theres pics in my gallery if you want to see what it looks like.
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bbk and mac cai's aren't worth a shlt, in my opinion. they are metal (chrome). they heat up in a matter of minutes. how do you have a COLD air intake, if it the chrome pipe HEATS up in a matter of minutes. all the "cold" air passing through the chrome pipe just heats up as it passes through the un it. they are a joke and are for cosmetics only. plus both BBK and MAC cai's have been known to cause stangs to run lean. you need to go with a PLASTIC cai! even after an hour of driving, the plastic still isn't hot. the good plastic kits are www.demolet.com (densecharger), K&N fipk, or jlt. if you are not going to buy a plastic kit, just drop the replacement K&N filter in your stock setup and remove the silencer. case closed, end of story!
i have a densecharger in my cobra and noticed a good increase in lower end torque/hp. theres pics in my gallery if you want to see what it looks like.
Never heard of JLT - Can you post a link?
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here ya go, ks. they custom paint the intake tube to match the exterior color of your car. you can buy a fenderwell kit, or the kit that keeps the filter under the hood. you can even buy a kit that has both, so you can swao them if ya want. mm&ff did a test with both options. i believe the fenderwell kit netted about 2 more rwhp than the other type.
http://www.jlttruecoldair.com/index.html
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bbk and mac cai's aren't worth a shlt, in my opinion. they are metal (chrome). they heat up in a matter of minutes. how do you have a COLD air intake, if it the chrome pipe HEATS up in a matter of minutes. all the "cold" air passing through the chrome pipe just heats up as it passes through the un it. they are a joke and are for cosmetics only. plus both BBK and MAC cai's have been known to cause stangs to run lean. you need to go with a PLASTIC cai! even after an hour of driving, the plastic still isn't hot. the good plastic kits are www.demolet.com (densecharger), K&N fipk, or jlt. if you are not going to buy a plastic kit, just drop the replacement K&N filter in your stock setup and remove the silencer. case closed, end of story!
i have a densecharger in my cobra and noticed a good increase in lower end torque/hp. theres pics in my gallery if you want to see what it looks like.
Say that like plastic doesn't heat up....

Also it places the Fliter outside the engine bay. sucking in cooler air from a more ouside of the car rather he warm engine bay air box (grantd the air silecer was removed) you would have cooler air.

I don' quite understand the logic of the K&N ( im just uneducated of i's increase formulas)

From what I understand the K&N filter is less restricting... but doesn't the MAS and throttle body control how much air goes into the engine? does this say cooler cair can come in quicker and go through quicker.

Also the nice thing about the "hot" chrom pipes, is the inner lining is not ridgid like our stock hot platic intake and dont trap warm air. colder air brought outside can flow better through a metal smooth pipe and not contrcact warm caught air in stock intake.

all in all.... they both don't add much at all. so you wont miss out whichever way you go i you ask me. But the metal Cool Air Intakes... do have their purposes. Easier flow, filter relocaion (to cooler area), lss restricting filter, IE better than. a ridgid, warm, plastic piping, warm air in stock Air box, less flowing Stock intake.

Cons on both: they both heat up. Metal weighs more
Pros: Metal - freer flowing/cooler Plastic - Cheap
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Say that like plastic doesn't heat up....

Also it places the Fliter outside the engine bay. sucking in cooler air from a more ouside of the car rather he warm engine bay air box (grantd the air silecer was removed) you would have cooler air.

I don' quite understand the logic of the K&N ( im just uneducated of i's increase formulas)

From what I understand the K&N filter is less restricting... but doesn't the MAS and throttle body control how much air goes into the engine? does this say cooler cair can come in quicker and go through quicker.

Also the nice thing about the "hot" chrom pipes, is the inner lining is not ridgid like our stock hot platic intake and dont trap warm air. colder air brought outside can flow better through a metal smooth pipe and not contrcact warm caught air in stock intake.

all in all.... they both don't add much at all. so you wont miss out whichever way you go i you ask me. But the metal Cool Air Intakes... do have their purposes. Easier flow, filter relocaion (to cooler area), lss restricting filter, IE better than. a ridgid, warm, plastic piping, warm air in stock Air box, less flowing Stock intake.

Cons on both: they both heat up. Metal weighs more
Pros: Metal - freer flowing/cooler Plastic - Cheap

No, the MAF senses how much air is going through so that the timing/fuel can be adjusted. The throttle body controls the speed or throttle.

The metal pipes are generally smaller than the plastic pipes (costs of materials). And the flow is no better than any aftermarket plastic pipes. they are generally smaller in diameter than the stock air intake.

The only real advantage the metal pipes have is in the bling-bling area.
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No, the MAF senses how much air is going through so that the timing/fuel can be adjusted. The throttle body controls the speed or throttle.

The metal pipes are generally smaller than the plastic pipes (costs of materials). And the flow is no better than any aftermarket plastic pipes. they are generally smaller in diameter than the stock air intake.

The only real advantage the metal pipes have is in the bling-bling area.

Aftermarket pipes... oh, im sure if you used an aftermarket plastic pipe that was smoother it wouldnt be too much of a problem.
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You can make your own CAI with PVC pipe (105mm) and the silly rubber connectors to and from the MAS and Throttle body for about $15 from Lowes or Home Depot. + side, uber air sucking through the worm hole you now have created. Bad side...My toilet uses the same size for flushing other **** down the drain beside money :thumbsup
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The only real advantage the metal pipes have is in the bling-bling area.
exactly. :thumbsup they are good for NOTHING else.
mustang dewd3.8- cooler air is more dense (compact). so the cooler the air is, the more that can be pushed into the engine. warm air is useless. either keep your factory setup with a K&N and the silencer removed or go with a plastic kit. ALL THE OTHERS ARE USELESS!!!!!!
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