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engine swap 1996 Mustang 3.8 to a 1999-2004 Mustang 3.8...

When my 3.8 goes out in my 96', I'm looking to buy another V6 engine with 20 or so thousand miles (99-2004 engine). Which engine would you recommend? Will it cost much to replace my old 96' 3.8 with a newer 99-04 3.8 engine? Thanks!
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When my 3.8 goes out in my 96', I'm looking to buy another V6 engine with 20 or so thousand miles (99-2004 engine). Which engine would you recommend? Will it cost much to replace my old 96' 3.8 with a newer 99-04 3.8 engine? Thanks!
The engines are cheap, which is why they're picking up in popularity. If you can find one, pick up an 02+ 3.8L or 4.2L, depending on what you want to do with the car. They have the same block, so you don't have to worry about accessories or fitment.

Around here a low mileage 3.8L goes for around $400, sometimes less if you pick one out of a wrecked car someone's parting out.

The cost is in installation. And that varies depending on local costs.

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what if you install it yourself? if i put a 99-04 V6 3.8L into my '95, would I have to change the computer?

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what if you install it yourself? if i put a 99-04 V6 3.8L into my '95, would I have to change the computer?

As long as the intake manifold is from a 99-00, you would just need to reprogram your existing computer.

if it's from an 01+, you'd have to remove the IMRC.

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oh, and you'd need tthe throttle cable . . .

Go through the parts list at RPM-Mustangs.com and eliminate all teh stuff you'd already have.

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Yea the 02+ is the way to go...if you can find one...

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reprogram the comp? as in remove batt cable for a while?

and VIN matching. How do you do that?

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'95 Ford Mustang
Current: 3.8L v6 manual.
Future: Get it running.

'00 Honda CBR929RR (Wheelie Machine)
Current: Full SI stunt set up. -1/+7 520 x-ring chain conversion. Protaper dirt bike bars. LSL Upper triple. Acerbis Cyclops headlight w/ DDM Tuning 6000k HID kit.
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reprogram the comp? as in remove batt cable for a while?

and VIN matching. How do you do that?

You can take it to a dealership, and so long as the engines are of the same type, it's $89 to reprogram. If it's a different engine of the same type, you may need a chip (but the dealer in T-town would reprogram it with a 99+ program for $89, I can't say for other dealerships)

If they won't download a 99+ program into the car, you'd have to get a used chip, new chip, or programmer.

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u got a used chip? :P lol

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Future: Get it running.

'00 Honda CBR929RR (Wheelie Machine)
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u got a used chip? :P lol
Had one, worked great, then the postal service lost it . ..

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I'm glad I read this post I might do this myself let's say we do this reprogram the computer and all will we have to modd the transmission and if yes what would have to be changed
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It's not as simple as the dealer loading 99 program into earlier computer. Different hardware, different software, different wiring. The only change in the tune that would be 100% necessary is the larger fuel injectors. I would either have VMP make you a mail order chip, or buy a Sniper Delta Force tuner for $360 and do it yourself. The Sniper is very user friendly and you can do a lot with it.

Myself, I just dropped a 05 4.2L long block in my 94 and I'm buttoning it back up this weekend. I will be fixing my tune with a TwEECer and Binary Editor, then burning it with a Moates burner and Moates chip. I went this route because I already ahd the TwEECer for my fox, and I plan to use it for other cars later.
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I'm glad I read this post I might do this myself let's say we do this reprogram the computer and all will we have to modd the transmission and if yes what would have to be changed
The only transmission related change is if your newer engine is neutral balanced, then you have to swap to a neutral balance flywheel/flexplate.
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