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Default 11lbs of Boost on A 2001 v6, will it hold together?

I just sold my 95 5.0 and now i'm looking for something a little quicker and more sleeperish. I found a 2001 V6 running 11lbs of boost from a procharger supercharger with stock internals. Also, it's an auto with shift kit and 3k stall with 4.10 rear gears. I have no idea what this would be running, any ideas guys?
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I just sold my 95 5.0 and now i'm looking for something a little quicker and more sleeperish. I found a 2001 V6 running 11lbs of boost from a procharger supercharger with stock internals. Also, it's an auto with shift kit and 3k stall with 4.10 rear gears. I have no idea what this would be running, any ideas guys?
the 4.10s will slow it down some. and the stall is a bit too high. I'm guessing it should run low 14s. Assuming there are no intake / exhaust mods.

Who used to own the car?


The internals should be fine. I'd worry more about bracing the rear with a girdle.
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This is interesting, with the 5.0 the 4.10s would have been a plus and that stall would have been workable. A middle aged man used to own it, its very clean and he claims its never been taken to the track or beat on. It has headers and true duals as well, i assumed that would not make too much of a differnce in performace, although i'm probably wrong.
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This is interesting, with the 5.0 the 4.10s would have been a plus and that stall would have been workable. A middle aged man used to own it, its very clean and he claims its never been taken to the track or beat on. It has headers and true duals as well, i assumed that would not make too much of a differnce in performace, although i'm probably wrong.
They slow it down because of the Supercharger... since the car is in the power zone for less amounts of time... if it did not have the superhcarger then the 4.10's would be a plus...
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The 5.0Ls had a 4 speed manual, or 3 speed auto. Different car altogether.
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low 14's? you think that is all it can do? I thought with 11lbs. of boost it would push over 300hp. Although most of that would not make it to the wheels. But still only low 14's.
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I was hoping the car would be a little faster than that as well. Looks like i'll being getting that 97 cobra after all. These v6's seem to have a few week points that restricts them from being quick while holding up mechanically. The 5.0 I recently sold was the 4 speed AODE, which would run 14.5's with only a transgo shift kit, 3000 stall, 3.73 gears, full exhaust and a CAI on good tires. That car had 245hp at most. With the 300 or so HP shouldn't this v6 be considerably quicker? What if i were to change the gears to say 3.55's or 3.73's? I'm only looking for about a 13.8, what more would it need?

Also, its not the stock rear end, its been built up with a locker or something like that, i'm forgot what he explained to me, but i believe it does have a girdle system.
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The V6 castings are weak and will probably crack or warp before you get to much out of it. The heads are not like 5.0 heads that just don't have enough head bolts and let the head gaskets pop instead the 3.8 usually cracks the heads when it blows a head gasket.
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That's conservative, and without a dynotune, with the stock exhaust system and throttle body.

Folks running 3" dual exhaust with everything else stock have been running mid 13s.

Low 13s/high 12s with a 70mm throttle body, and 70 mm MAF, and dual exhaust. Throw headers on, and You've got the usual combination good for high 11s/low 12s.

The engine really responds to better flow.
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the 94-8 castings were weak, but could handle 11PSI with an intercooler. The bolt/gasket problem was fixed in 1999. Most of the 94-8 heads have been fixed through a recall.

the 02+ blocks have increased webbing, a windage tray, and stronger main caps.
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That's conservative, and without a dynotune, with the stock exhaust system and throttle body.

Folks running 3" dual exhaust with everything else stock have been running mid 13s.

Low 13s/high 12s with a 70mm throttle body, and 70 mm MAF, and dual exhaust. Throw headers on, and You've got the usual combination good for high 11s/low 12s.

The engine really responds to better flow.
I should also point out, that that's for an auto (low 14s) (I assumed an auto because your last car was an auto)

(I was distracted)

Also to get to 12s -you'll probably have to swap in a 4.2L rotating assembly (which was common then) or swap your cam and do some porting.
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Yeah I thought something was wrong with that. You can see 14s with 9psi of boost. The car should be running 13s with 11psi. A V6 auto running 11 psi with 3.73 gears hit the 13s on 91 octane. So it must be the gears messing up the ETs. The car would have been alittle faster without the 3.73s and the car your looking at would run lower than 14 if it werent for the 4.10s.
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a good set of heads and 11 psi with a good tune would put you into the 12's
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the 94-8 castings were weak, but could handle 11PSI with an intercooler. The bolt/gasket problem was fixed in 1999. Most of the 94-8 heads have been fixed through a recall.

the 02+ blocks have increased webbing, a windage tray, and stronger main caps.
Actually it's not the heads that are the weak part on the ealier models it was a head gasket problem ,if you use the 99+ Ford Gaskets they are bullet proof . I have a friend that has a T-72 turbo
on a built 4.2 making 25-28 Psi of boost so the heads can take it .
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Wrong and Wrong. The 5.0 had a 4 sp auto and a 5 speed manual.
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