Bore & Stroke 3.8 to 4.4L
Lightweight and forged internals
Blueprinted engine work (fully balanced)
Lighweight flywheel
Wilder cam to allow the engine to rev into the 6000+rpm zone
lightweight valvetrain components (Rockers, titanium Valves, etc)
Ported heads with large valves (1.94 - 1.6) or more
extremely ported or aftermarket intake
Complete exhaust with longtube headers, X pipe, etc
How much do u guys think this would cost and what kind of power would it end up giving me?
1. 4.3 liter would be just fine unless you like your engine being bored out to paper thin .
2. You would have to use a stock steel 4.2 crank unless you had one made ($$$$$$) the pistons and rods available to use now are not what you would really call lightweight but they are durable .
3. Balanced engine -- Thats a must do thing anyway.
4. Lightweight flywheel --- Nice upgrade (loss that lb stock boat anchor)
5. Wilder cam -- thats not a problem Comp billet cams can grind pretty much anything you want .
6.Lightweight valve train components (Rockers, titanium Valves, etc)
Comp Rockers are the best out there right now , the Titanium valve would have to be a custom job , again ($$$$$) they do have Generation ll stainless which work fine .You will need very good springs also to rev that high safely.
7.Ported heads with large valves (1.94 - 1.6) or more. the 1.94 size intakes are a no brainier as are the ported heads , the 1.60 size exhaust would require a bigger valve seat you need to stick to 1.55, 1.575, 1.56 sizes .
8. extremely ported or aftermarket intake -- all I can tell you about the upper intake is no matter how well it is ported , it will never flow like a custom sheet metal upper , the lower just needs a good port work done.
9. Complete exhaust with long tube headers, X pipe, etc--- this is also a given you will have to have this to complete the flow on the engine.
The cost of the long block around $7000.00
How much power it will make , depending on the C/R used N/a around 275/285 RWHP , add a D-1 Procharger 500-600 RWHP
Don't forget you have not factored in fuel upgrades (Fuel Pump)
injectors .
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660.0 RWHP 583.0 Ft. lb's trq. @17.4 PSI
11.584@124.58mph( Old set up)
2002 V6 3.8 liter.
T-5 G-Force Dog Ring
Custom T-80 Turbo built by Delk Performance
so would u think it is worth it to do this or is there a better way? Also if you buy a procharger kit doesnt it come with new fuel pump and injectors?
The is it worth it is up to you , I have spent qiet a bit on my forst set up and even more this time so it's worth it to me .
The Procharger tuner kit has injectors and fuel pump upgrades , I'm not sure if it would be easier to but the fueal pump and injectors seperately , but you need to have the injectors cleaned and flowed reguardless .
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660.0 RWHP 583.0 Ft. lb's trq. @17.4 PSI
11.584@124.58mph( Old set up)
2002 V6 3.8 liter.
T-5 G-Force Dog Ring
Custom T-80 Turbo built by Delk Performance
So if i built the engine up like this i'd think it would be more of a drag car or would it also be a daily driver. If it wouldnt be a good daily driver what would be a good setup for one? sry im a newb lol
Instead of doing all that, wouldn't it be cheaper to pull that drivetrain out all together and put a nicely built 351 (or 302), and just run a carb setup...
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DHG #01434 Bullitt - full JLT intake, MGW shifter, Accel coils (I wish I had 4.10s, o/r H, tune)
Black 89 LX(the drag car) best 8.75 at 80 mph in the 1/8
97 Mountaineer V8 AWD
Instead of doing all that, wouldn't it be cheaper to pull that drivetrain out all together and put a nicely built 351 (or 302), and just run a carb setup...
Thats always an option , but I like to see how much I can get out of the V6 , My friend is already at 648RWHP with his single turbo set up on a single port , I think there is still more to be made .
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660.0 RWHP 583.0 Ft. lb's trq. @17.4 PSI
11.584@124.58mph( Old set up)
2002 V6 3.8 liter.
T-5 G-Force Dog Ring
Custom T-80 Turbo built by Delk Performance
So if i built the engine up like this i'd think it would be more of a drag car or would it also be a daily driver. If it wouldnt be a good daily driver what would be a good setup for one? sry im a newb lol
I'll be at 475-500 soon as I get back from Iraq and can be driven as a DD. I'm keeping all the comforts of a DD as well, A/C, cruise control and heat. My car in theory will do high 10's all day long on pump gas.
If you have any other questions please ask. Gary, myself and others on this board have been doing this for a long time and are here to help you.
I guess the most important thing to ask is what do you want out of your car.
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Pushing for 500 to the wheels.
Combination of a built motor from SuperSix, Cam from Delk Performance and a home built Novi 2000 system.
Instead of doing all that, wouldn't it be cheaper to pull that drivetrain out all together and put a nicely built 351 (or 302), and just run a carb setup...
A nicely built 302 runs $6,000. And that was back in the late 80s when I built it. the Electronics/computer work to make it work will be another $2000. plus you'd have to invest in a new exhuast system, including headers, radiator, get a k-member from a pre 99 car, etc., a new rear end, quad shocks, and brakes from the increased weight on the front end and so on.
and then you'll have a 325-350 hp 302.
The electronics make building the six more cost effective.
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Woe to him who builds his palace by unrighteousness,his upper rooms by injustice,making his countrymen work for nothing...Does it make you a king to have more and more cedar?Did not your father have food and drink?He did what was right and just,so all went well with him. He defended the cause of the poor and needy,and so all went well...But your eyes and your heart are set only on dishonest gain,on shedding innocent blood and on oppression and extortion. Jer 22:13, 15-17
so it would be a good idea to stick with the six and build it
Either do that or trade on a GT. But then you run the risk of buying an abused car.
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Woe to him who builds his palace by unrighteousness,his upper rooms by injustice,making his countrymen work for nothing...Does it make you a king to have more and more cedar?Did not your father have food and drink?He did what was right and just,so all went well with him. He defended the cause of the poor and needy,and so all went well...But your eyes and your heart are set only on dishonest gain,on shedding innocent blood and on oppression and extortion. Jer 22:13, 15-17
Beat a G, that is hard to say? Stock GT, bolted on mods GT, Gt with a blower? Main thing to focus on is what power level would you like to reach or how fast do you want to run at the track?
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Pushing for 500 to the wheels.
Combination of a built motor from SuperSix, Cam from Delk Performance and a home built Novi 2000 system.
how much money would u need to put into a six so it could beat a gt and what mods would i need to buy
You need to figure out what you want out of the car.
beating what year GT?
for pre-99 GTs, underdrivers, CAI, Exhaust, and if you want -a limited slip will do it.
Cheapest would be to run a Zex N2O system.
Or you can run a 4.2L bottom end, and open up the intake/exhaust and run a nice cam.
But then you can run a supercharger or turbo, as well.
how do you want to power? linear? low end torque? available all the time, or when you need it?
Beating a GT isn't that difficult, the difficult part is figuring out what you want.
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Woe to him who builds his palace by unrighteousness,his upper rooms by injustice,making his countrymen work for nothing...Does it make you a king to have more and more cedar?Did not your father have food and drink?He did what was right and just,so all went well with him. He defended the cause of the poor and needy,and so all went well...But your eyes and your heart are set only on dishonest gain,on shedding innocent blood and on oppression and extortion. Jer 22:13, 15-17
What will this do for me? 
