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Old 11-16-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Coyote and every one help me out here... I was considering a GT (among other cars) this summer. Would it be better to just throw on a S/C on my six? I was planning on selling my stang and putting another $5,000 down for a newer ride, but wouldn't $5,000 be plenty for a S/C and everything else(sub frames fuel pump... etc)?

My 98 only has 30,000 miles on it, but then again it is a 1998 v6, weak year for the mustang. What kind of #s are we looking at with FI? Worth it?
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I would save the cost of the blower for now and get the GT, then a couple years down the road slap a blower on that car. You'll enjoy it much more.
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Coyote and every one help me out here... I was considering a GT (among other cars) this summer. Would it be better to just throw on a S/C on my six? I was planning on selling my stang and putting another $5,000 down for a newer ride, but wouldn't $5,000 be plenty for a S/C and everything else(sub frames fuel pump... etc)?

My 98 only has 30,000 miles on it, but then again it is a 1998 v6, weak year for the mustang. What kind of #s are we looking at with FI? Worth it?
you're gonna haveta pay a ton of money on insurance, gas, etc, seeing as how you're still in high school.

additionally, a $5,000 GT is going to be hit or miss when it comes to previous abuse.

Smart money is building your six.

$5000 would get you plenty of power and a good reliable setup.

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KS I meant like, sell my car, and another $5,000 on top of what I get for it (for a GT). But yea man, insurance on a GT was quoted at $300 . Would my car with a blower be able to take the 05+ gts? I dout it, but tell me what you can.
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KS I meant like, sell my car, and another $5,000 on top of what I get for it (for a GT). But yea man, insurance on a GT was quoted at $300 . Would my car with a blower be able to take the 05+ gts? I dout it, but tell me what you can.
150*1.85*0.75 is going to be your best number with 98 heads.

Unless you swap to split ports, or a sheet metal intake the best you're going to get is approximately 210 RWHP/277 crank hp.

So you won't catch the 05+ GTs. But neither would a 1998 GT.
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Could you please elaborate what these numbers are?
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210 hp? wow thats nothing. I was considering a srt-4. Cheap and fast. Would destroy a supercharged six then... hmm. KS what do you think, of course a srt-4 would be a bitc* on insurance, worse then a GT. So I would be looking at 6-8K to get my v6 to 250HP. My car does have SOME retail because of the low milage...
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he's got a 1998 with 150 hp.

doing nothing else but a procharger 11psi HO, he can expect an 85% increase over stock (more with headers, throttle body, etc) but $5000 for chassis and the SC, and the dyno is probably about right, since all the work is gonna get farmed out.

so that's the 1.85

Then assuming a 25% loss (I know that's conservative, but that's running an auto with the AC on) you multiply times the 75% you're ending up with

that's the 0.75
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They're worse on insurance because they don't have much in teh way of crash protection. At least they used to be.

It wouldn't take you a thousand dollars more to get to 250.
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It would take less then a $1,000?

So whats my best bet. Supercharge the six, or buy a new car (like a 03+) for around $15,000. Could get a LS1 for around there...
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you can do it for a lot less, but you'd have to do some of it yourself.

Pinto did his for around $3500, if I remember correctly.

It would't touch a supercharged 99+, but it starts out with about as many hp as you have, and it's lighter.

They aren't that cheap.
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So whats my best bet. Supercharge the six, or buy a new car (like a 03+) for around $15,000. Could get a LS1 for around there...
Don't forget the extra $1200 a year you're gonna have to pay for insurance and the extra gas costs.
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I don't know how your insurance company works, but this is how it is with GEICO;

You have to tell them all the parts you have added that total $500.00 or more in order to have those parts covered by your insurance policy. Bad thing about that is, your insurance will increase.

You'll need to probably ask what the increased insurance costs would be with your various additions. You'll then need to calculate wheehter or not there is a cost benefit for addind the parts as opposed to buying new ones IF you were in an accident. For example, if you added $2K in parts, and your insurance goes up $100 a month, it's really not worth it to add the covereage. After 2 years your premiums have increased $2400 when the parts only cost $2000.00

I'm 29 with a CLEAN driving record, thanks to attorneys (35 tickets in 4 years on my motorcycle, none in cars). If I were to add a ProCharger supercharger, cost of about $3,600.00, my insurance would only go up about $20.00 per month. It WOULD be a benefit for me to write it into my policy, since my 2 year premium increase would only be $480.00.

This probably sounds pretty anal to all of you reading, but I ALWAYS examine the cost/benefits of situations that involve money and time.

Also, I use 2 years as a benchmark, because you might get insurance breaks or new/different car.
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I second blue streak on this one... once they feel a v8 will forget all about a v6 lol frieghtliner torque compared to the v6
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Is your Dad going to let you buy a GT? I thought he wanted you to keep the 6 because he invested so much money in it.
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