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alright i have a k&n fipk II and my sct tuner is coming in tomorrow! and i was wondering if i should get 4.10 gears? i don't care if my mpg is a little less but will it put more wear on my engine? i have 117,000 miles on my car and don't want to do anything that would stress it more or whatever. thanks for your help
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alright i have a k&n fipk II and my sct tuner is coming in tomorrow! and i was wondering if i should get 4.10 gears? i don't care if my mpg is a little less but will it put more wear on my engine? i have 117,000 miles on my car and don't want to do anything that would stress it more or whatever. thanks for your help
It all depends on where you're driving and what kind of transmission you have.

If you go on the highway a lot, DO NOT get 4.10's or you'll be in the 3,000RPM range non-stop. If you don't go on the highway a lot or even at all 4.10's or even 4.30's are right up your alley. Just remember though, you're gonna be fast off the line but people are gonna zoom by you at a higher speed because you're going to be revving very high.

If you have an automatic transmission, no matter what you should go with 3.73's are the better way to go, that way O/D can save you. If you have a manual transmission, go with the 4.10's because you've got 5 gears to help with the RPM's. but that's just my opinion. Good luck!
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It all depends on where you're driving and what kind of transmission you have.

If you go on the highway a lot, DO NOT get 4.10's or you'll be in the 3,000RPM range non-stop. If you don't go on the highway a lot or even at all 4.10's or even 4.30's are right up your alley. Just remember though, you're gonna be fast off the line but people are gonna zoom by you at a higher speed because you're going to be revving very high.

If you have an automatic transmission, no matter what you should go with 3.73's are the better way to go, that way O/D can save you. If you have a manual transmission, go with the 4.10's because you've got 5 gears to help with the RPM's. but that's just my opinion. Good luck!
Good info...may I ask what you mean by O/D can save you? Are you talking about turning it off to get a better start off the line?
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what i meant by O/D can save you, is at a higher rate of speed if O/D is off its going to be revving high, and you won't be able to get very far with it. With O/D on, it will lower the RPM's tremendously allowing for a closer gear ratio. It's basically a 4th gear, which is why I say 3.73's for autos, and 4.10's for manuals because of that 5th gear.
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alot also depends on future plans with the car. for example S/C and 4.10's dont go to good tog.
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im not going to get a supercharger. i never drive on the highway. just around town. would the gears wear on my engine faster becuase of the higher rpms or whatever? and i have an auto. thanks
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what i meant by O/D can save you, is at a higher rate of speed if O/D is off its going to be revving high, and you won't be able to get very far with it. With O/D on, it will lower the RPM's tremendously allowing for a closer gear ratio. It's basically a 4th gear, which is why I say 3.73's for autos, and 4.10's for manuals because of that 5th gear.
I wouldn't go 4.10s even with a manual because you'll still be revving high with 3.73s in 5th. At 65 mph, you'll be revving at around 2600 rpms. and who drives only 65 mph on the highway. you'll most likely be driving around 70-75 mph on the highway and that'll pulle you to aroun 2800-2900 rpms. If you do a lot of highway driving, I would stick with the stockers. if you you some of both, 3.73s will be good for both city and highway. i would only get 4.10s if you plan on getting a new tranny with 6 gears.
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im not going to get a supercharger. i never drive on the highway. just around town. would the gears wear on my engine faster becuase of the higher rpms or whatever? and i have an auto. thanks
if you're only going around town then the gears won't hurt your engine at all. You said you're getting a tuner in so that will help you adjust shift points. plus i've got 126k on my motor and have been running 3.73 gears for the last 15k miles and not a sinlgle hiccup from my block. Don't worry about it.
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alot also depends on future plans with the car. for example S/C and 4.10's dont go to good tog.
there's nothing wrong with that setup unless you're going to be doing a lot of highway driving. If you had a 6th gear, then i'd go 4.10s but us sixers don't...unless you plan on getting a new tranny.
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It all depends on where you're driving and what kind of transmission you have.

If you go on the highway a lot, DO NOT get 4.10's or you'll be in the 3,000RPM range non-stop. If you don't go on the highway a lot or even at all 4.10's or even 4.30's are right up your alley. Just remember though, you're gonna be fast off the line but people are gonna zoom by you at a higher speed because you're going to be revving very high.

If you have an automatic transmission, no matter what you should go with 3.73's are the better way to go, that way O/D can save you. If you have a manual transmission, go with the 4.10's because you've got 5 gears to help with the RPM's. but that's just my opinion. Good luck!
Uh, how does O/D save him with 3.73's, but not 4.10's...


BTW, 75 mph with a manual and 4.10's= 2700 rpm, which is the same RPM my bone stock Saturn SL1 turns on the highway....
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Uh, how does O/D save him with 3.73's, but not 4.10's...


BTW, 75 mph with a manual and 4.10's= 2700 rpm, which is the same RPM my bone stock Saturn SL1 turns on the highway....
4.10's the RPM's are going to be much higher and not safer (for the engine) at highway speeds. My friend at 70MPH is running at about 3400RPM's on the highway with 4.10's and an auto...
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4.10's the RPM's are going to be much higher and not safer (for the engine) at highway speeds. My friend at 70MPH is running at about 3400RPM's on the highway with 4.10's and an auto...
And what transmission does he have....
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And what transmission does he have....
4R70W. and I think I know where you're going with this one.... He also has a v8, so that may make a difference yes...
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4R70W. and I think I know where you're going with this one.... He also has a v8, so that may make a difference yes...
Um, no. He is either running in 3rd gear, or a non locked converter.

A 4R70W with 4.10's at 75 mph= 2780 rpm.


A far cry from your 3400 rpm post....
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Um, no. He is either running in 3rd gear, or a non locked converter.

A 4R70W with 4.10's at 75 mph= 2780 rpm.


A far cry from your 3400 rpm post....
hmm... that's odd. maybe o/d was off, but I didn't see it on his dash. but we were going a consistent 70, no accelerating or anything and it was 3400RPM.... I'm not saying you're wrong and I'm not saying I'm right, but, that's what it was....
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