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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 06-15-2018 Thread Starter
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This is crap!

Sorry if this is well known info already but I just received some new tunes from BAMA/AM and they said they can't turn off the O2 sensors anymore as of 2018. So I have to drive around with a CEL. WTF?


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Because "they" can't do it, doesn't mean you can't.

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Must be some new EPA regulation that just went into affect, and they'll spend their life in the dungeon for environmental criminals if they do it.

I assume you have no catalytic converters and that's why it is a problem. That has been illegal per federal law for a long time, better hope the environmental police don't catch up with you or you'll be in the dungeon too, LOL.

I don't think this is one of the settings that you can easily access yourself in the tuner, but it's worth a look. Go in to the tuner as if you were going to load a tune, and go in to the "adjust parameters" screen and see if it is listed in there. If yes, turn it off and then load the tune.

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Now that I think of it I remember some settings option when I put the previous tune on which I just ignored. Hope that is the way it is again.

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Hmmm... must be real recent. I just got a tune revision last week. And my initial tune was made in February a few days before I installed my LT's and O/R H pipe.

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Well that is even more BS.

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The problem is that regulations are ever tightening to reduce harmful NOx emissions, so deleting the cats could eventually become illegal in all states. The reason an offroad midpipe is described as such is pretty obvious.


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Im not surprised that this is what its come to. They should no longer sell cat less pipes then, no?

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Off-road vehicles aren't held to the same emissions requirements as road cars, so it would be grossly unfair to remove catless systems from the market entirely while there are still legitimate applications for them. Parts manufacturers and retailers have no control over whether their systems are installed legally, so a lot of the burden rests on shops who touch the emissions systems or re-certify vehicles for road use. Tampering or defeating emissions systems remains federally illegal in all US states, but not all states have regular inspections, so everyone has to decide for themselves whether or not they're willing to risk getting caught. The risk is higher for shops, who can be fined several thousand dollars per violation. At any rate, retailers are more than happy to turn a profit selling these products, as all they have to do is warn the customer that the product is "for off-road use only". The rest is out of their hands, and it's up to the customer/installer to ensure that the parts only end up on vehicles that are only operated on race tracks, farms, backyards, etc.
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yeah, I guess it's all part of becoming a big company, and acting like a big company :-)

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Did you guys see that American Muscle is selling Brenspeed tunes now?

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LOL My wife's 66 doesn't even have to pass emissions testing.
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Did you guys see that American Muscle is selling Brenspeed tunes now?
seriously? no I hadn't seen that . . . that might be pretty cool if they still honor the old "free tunes for life" memberships . . . so, will Brenspeed disable the rear O2's if you ask them to?

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Did you guys see that American Muscle is selling Brenspeed tunes now?
Seriously? I guess there have been so many complaints about the BAMA tunes that American Muscle has decided to dump them.



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