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What really blows my mind, is that setups like the ATI prochargers, and Paxtons are over $5K....when it's such a SIMPLE design....simple parts. Cheap....but they jack the prics SOOOOOOO much.....scary. In reality, a decent intercooler can be had for $400...injectors $300, tuner $300, intercooler plumbing $250...which is $1250...so...what's up with the remaining $4K? OVERPRICED!!!!!


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They know they are the ticket to big numbers. And that is why so mant American businesses are failing today. Everyone complains if someone finds a good deal because it was made overseas, but the overpricing of our goods push people to do it.


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Amen to that....I am all for supporting your neighbor....buy local stuff. But if I can get the same item for half the cost...(made in China)...then I am sorry...but I am not Bill Gates. I will buy what is cheaper.

As an example....how much would a set of forged rods cost you? That are made in the USA? A friend of mine was importing custom rods from China.... H-beam rods, AWESOME quality....they cost him $9 each!!!!! He turned around and sold them for $100 each....and nobody complained about the price!!!!

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They know they are the ticket to big numbers. And that is why so mant American businesses are failing today. Everyone complains if someone finds a good deal because it was made overseas, but the overpricing of our goods push people to do it.

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I have been tracking the E-Force as I was planning on purchasing this actually right about now! I am a firm believer in selling a quality product at a fair price. I wonder how much thought goes into marking up an already expensive item 10-20% in some cases. Could I afford to buy it still? Sure, but I won't just because simply don't see the justification. I can live without it and still be quite happy. My paycheck didn't increase 10-20% so I humbly decline to part with my money at this time. Haven't seen any Group Buys either lately. Times are tough all over. Nothing wrong with some good healthy competition to lower prices which in turn will drive up sales. Everybody wins then.
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I have been tracking the E-Force as I was planning on purchasing this actually right about now! I am a firm believer in selling a quality product at a fair price. I wonder how much thought goes into marking up an already expensive item 10-20% in some cases. Could I afford to buy it still? Sure, but I won't just because simply don't see the justification. I can live without it and still be quite happy. My paycheck didn't increase 10-20% so I humbly decline to part with my money at this time. Haven't seen any Group Buys either lately. Times are tough all over. Nothing wrong with some good healthy competition to lower prices which in turn will drive up sales. Everybody wins then.
I have to agree with you. I got mine one a month ago right before the price increase, but this still pisses me off. I know of serveral people trying to muster up the cash to buy the E Force right now. I'm almost positive this is going to affect the outcome and I don't blame them one bit! It was all I could to do save up for it in a year's time at the old price. I personally think this will hurt their sales and reduce profits in this tough economy. And lets not forget the vendors. It's going to hurt them worse. Don't get me wrong I love the E Force but gheesh there is a point when you have to draw the line. Had this price increase occured before I bought mine, I would have probably ended up with a Magnacharger, Saleen, or Paxton HO. Believe me, 450rwhp is plenty for the average person and you can get close to that with the Maggi. If you like the positive displacement blowers, that would be an excellent choice for around 4 grand.

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I was thinking the same thing about the lower end superchargers realisticly being plenty. I might just stay NA in protest and just hit N2O at the track. I've been saving, but I might just go for a built long block. How much power do I need on the street anyway? I can build an NA motor plus gears that puts out enough to things moving nicely.

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What really blows my mind, is that setups like the ATI prochargers, and Paxtons are over $5K....when it's such a SIMPLE design....simple parts. Cheap....but they jack the prics SOOOOOOO much.....scary. In reality, a decent intercooler can be had for $400...injectors $300, tuner $300, intercooler plumbing $250...which is $1250...so...what's up with the remaining $4K? OVERPRICED!!!!!
I will be the last person to say Edlebrock or their supplier Eaton is not charging enough for their product. What I can say is that the twin screw unit itself is NOT cheap. Now I don't know thier costs exactly but I work as an engineer at a compressor factory that designs and build rotary screw air compressors (twin screw, oil flooded air compressors) for industrial/construction applicatoins. Actually we also make what we fondly call a dry screw :hihi: which is basically a supercharger on steroids....no oil (dry) and this is our most expensive machine we build (~ 300K ea). With no oil, the tolerances must close up dramatically to minimize losses in efficiency. The machines to cut the volutes on these rotors are in the million dollar neighborhood.

Would you put one from China on your car? Really?

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Would you put one from China on your car? Really?
That depends would it have lead paint or would that cost extra?:nogrinner
I know that there are costs involved in getting them on the market, but at the same time I think that they are trying to take advantage of the 4.6 engine limitations.

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