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Pumping out a few liters of gasoline over the filling plug?

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Sometimes, but not often i need a few liters of gasoline for my generator. I tried to pump it out from my stang with a marine handpump, but it was not possible. The tube goes in 5 feet (Really, no joke) and it was gasoline on it, but pumping was not possible.
Also with a special Gasoline Handpump it didnt work.

I dont want to use a canister, because the gasoline does not good ignite when its old and then the generator dont like to start. In the car is enough fresh gasoline.
I have done this pumping out action all the time with my other cars, but with the Mustang GT 2007 it doesnt work.

Whats my mistake? The tube goes in very deep, that can not be the reason.

Anybody here with a solution for pumping out gasoline over the filling plug?

Thanks very much for your usable tips!!!

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There is a “tip over” valve where the filler tube meets the tank (yes, the filler tube is slightly less than 5’ long). It is impossible to get any sort of siphon/tube past the tip over valve because of how it is designed.


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There is a “tip over” valve where the filler tube meets the tank (yes, the filler tube is slightly less than 5’ long). It is impossible to get any sort of siphon/tube past the tip over valve because of how it is designed.
Ok i understand, thats really bad.
Is this a valve with a ball inside? Also not a very thin flexible tube?

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thats really bad.
Not if you tip over.:hihi:



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Is this a valve with a ball inside?
Nope, more like a plastic plunger. There is NO WAY to get any sort of hose past it no matter how thin. Sorry.

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Thats interesting.
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Thats interesting.
The vent is the same way.

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The first pic is looking straight into where the filler hose connects. The black plastic “valve” is spring loaded and unless something is pushing down on it (like filling up with gas) it remains sealed. You can see it even has an O-ring on it. I’m guessing it serves two functions. First it prevents fuel evap from being able to escape back up the filler tube. Second, if you tip the car over the fuel should stay in the tank.

The second pic is with the valve open. As you can see the fuel has to hit it and then turn 90deg to get in the tank. And obviously sneaking a siphon in there would be impossible.
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The first pic is looking straight into where the filler hose connects. The black plastic “valve” is spring loaded and unless something is pushing down on it (like filling up with gas) it remains sealed. You can see it even has an O-ring on it. I’m guessing it serves two functions. First it prevents fuel evap from being able to escape back up the filler tube. Second, if you tip the car over the fuel should stay in the tank.

The second pic is with the valve open. As you can see the fuel has to hit it and then turn 90deg to get in the tank. And obviously sneaking a siphon in there would be impossible.
Hello,
thanks very much for this perfect explanation.
This shows how easy photos can show a function and explain something!!

I have to use a canister for my generator.

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The solution would be to get a generator that runs off your home gas supply.




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The solution would be to get a generator that runs off your home gas supply.
Or a gas can.

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Or a gas can.
I think that's what he means by "canister".
(German to English translation.)
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I think that's what he means by "canister".
(German to English translation.)
Yes, i mean a gas can.
Excuse my bad school english (30 years ago)

Do you have experiences with gas stabilizers like "Fuel Fit from Briggs & Stratton", because its often so, that the generator is not in use for 8 weeks or longer. Do they work?
That was also the reason for the pumping out gas idea, because of the fresh gasoline.

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Yes, i mean a gas can.
Excuse my bad school english (30 years ago)

Do you have experiences with gas stabilizers like "Fuel Fit from Briggs & Stratton", because its often so, that the generator is not in use for 8 weeks or longer. Do they work?
That was also the reason for the pumping out gas idea, because of the fresh gasoline.
I wouldn’t use it in any of my race bikes/cars/etc but I have let gas sit I things like my generator, lawn mower, etc for over a year on multiple occasions and have had zero problems.

I have on the other hand see all sorts of people have problems with StaBil and other fuel treatments.

I missed the gas canister thing, sorry.

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Yes, i mean a gas can.
Excuse my bad school english (30 years ago)

Do you have experiences with gas stabilizers like "Fuel Fit from Briggs & Stratton", because its often so, that the generator is not in use for 8 weeks or longer. Do they work?
That was also the reason for the pumping out gas idea, because of the fresh gasoline.
I use Stabil exclusively in all my power equipment, and have been for years, without any problems. I've heard of others using SeaFoam with similar success.

The small engine carburetors have tiny orifices in them the size of a pin tip. It does not take much time for the fuel to gum up, turn to shelac, and clog the tiny orifices making the carburetor junk.
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