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Exhaust reviews - why the vast difference?

So I'm looking at the Pypes Pype-Bomb axelback for my 10 GT 5spd. My only worry is highway cruising as this is my daily driver and I spend a lot of time on the highway.

So I am reading a lot of reviews to get a feel for what other owners think. I read a dozen or so great reviews, people love them, then I get one or 2 that say the drone is so bad it will make you deaf.

Whats up with that? Is it just a difference in peoples perspective/expectation, or other mods contributing to the difference?


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It seems to be opinion for the most part. I run MAC Boomtubes(almost the same as the Bomb), some people say they might drone some on the highway going up a hill or something, but I say that the exhaust would just get louder going up a hill due to more power being used on the hill. Some people only want to hear the exhaust while getting on the throttle and little to no sound while cruising so they can hear their radio clearly, whereas I like to ride with the radio off and HEAR my darling car sing to me. Some people would say that "drone" is being able to hear the exhaust while driving at 65.

As far as drone making you deaf, no I doubt it lol. But if you're worried about noise at highway speeds then you might want to consider some Flowmaster American Thunders or a similar design that's a little quieter. The straight flow design like the Bomb, SLP Loudmouths, and Boomtubes are loud at idle, on the throttle, and on the highway, but not enough that you can't hear the radio and talk to someone without yelling. My Boomtubes are fairly quiet while highwaying, I can talk on the phone and hear fine, I can talk with my wife just fine assuming I can get her to ride with me, I can hear the radio just fine, and I can hear other cars around me just fine. The only actual "drone" (using the definition of drone) is when I'm on the highway and I'm under more power like going up a hill or speeding up to pass someone in high gear, even then the drone is not deafening, and it doesn't really affect how good you can hear whatever audible noises that you're wanting to hear at the time.

I hope that helps!

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Odds are, it has to do a lot with driving styles. If you're staying outside of the drone range a lot (i.e., around town, not at 1800-2300 rpms), you won't have a drone issue and will just have a deep, loud exhaust. But for those of us who spend a decent bit of time in 5th gear between 55-80 will definitely be driven up the wall.

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I feel like I say this each time I read a what exhaust or similar thread. I think Ford Racing needs to cut me a check for advertising. haha

FR500S is the way to go! LOUD when you want and it and quite at cruising speeds.

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Thanks for this info. I do want to hear the engine/exhaust, and like a good rumble. Still doesn't make my decision any easier, but at least I can take this into account when I am researching. My son named my car Nasty Nellie so I would like the sound to match the name a bit haha



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It seems to be opinion for the most part. I run MAC Boomtubes(almost the same as the Bomb), some people say they might drone some on the highway going up a hill or something, but I say that the exhaust would just get louder going up a hill due to more power being used on the hill. Some people only want to hear the exhaust while getting on the throttle and little to no sound while cruising so they can hear their radio clearly, whereas I like to ride with the radio off and HEAR my darling car sing to me. Some people would say that "drone" is being able to hear the exhaust while driving at 65.

As far as drone making you deaf, no I doubt it lol. But if you're worried about noise at highway speeds then you might want to consider some Flowmaster American Thunders or a similar design that's a little quieter. The straight flow design like the Bomb, SLP Loudmouths, and Boomtubes are loud at idle, on the throttle, and on the highway, but not enough that you can't hear the radio and talk to someone without yelling. My Boomtubes are fairly quiet while highwaying, I can talk on the phone and hear fine, I can talk with my wife just fine assuming I can get her to ride with me, I can hear the radio just fine, and I can hear other cars around me just fine. The only actual "drone" (using the definition of drone) is when I'm on the highway and I'm under more power like going up a hill or speeding up to pass someone in high gear, even then the drone is not deafening, and it doesn't really affect how good you can hear whatever audible noises that you're wanting to hear at the time.

I hope that helps!

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I feel like I say this each time I read a what exhaust or similar thread. I think Ford Racing needs to cut me a check for advertising. haha

FR500S is the way to go! LOUD when you want and it and quite at cruising speeds.

I keep hearing good things about those.


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Really I think people have varying opinions on what is too much drone. I know mine has some on the highway. I actually feel like mine is worse at 2500 RPM and better down closer to 2100-2200 RPM (which is something like 80 mph vs 70-ish, respectively). I figure as long as my wife doesn't complain about it I'm good, and she hasn't yet

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I was hoping to stay under $400, so that knocks out the FR500's for me. That's why the Pype-Bomb's looked appealing. MBRP's axle back looks good too. Great price point, and would be a bit quieter than the bomb's.

I know, I know, wait to get what will work best. I do like the mean loud sound. I want it to scream when I'm on it.... If money were no object the Borla Atak's might be under my car. I wonder if there is anyone in the Seattle area who has a loud exhaust I could go for a ride with????

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I ran MBRP's axle back for a year or so. It looks good and fits good, if you can find a deal on one go for it (and IMO it would probably fit a lot better than the Pypes). It's been so long since I had the factory cats on my car I can barely remember, but I do recall it sounded good outside the car but was not bad at all inside the car. Pretty mellow for a straight through axle back until you get on it, then it barks!


I do have a video of my car from back when I had the factory cats with the MBRP's...just idle and revving, but I'll post it if you're interested (I'm at work, can't get the link right now, youtube is blocked)

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I keep hearing good things about those.
They are hands down the best exhaust I have ever owned and worth every penny. ha

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I was hoping to stay under $400, so that knocks out the FR500's for me. That's why the Pype-Bomb's looked appealing. MBRP's axle back looks good too. Great price point, and would be a bit quieter than the bomb's.

I know, I know, wait to get what will work best. I do like the mean loud sound. I want it to scream when I'm on it.... If money were no object the Borla Atak's might be under my car. I wonder if there is anyone in the Seattle area who has a loud exhaust I could go for a ride with????
Yeah I mean the FR500S are a little over the $400 budget, but look on eBay and see what you can find. With AM they are on sale now and combined with the forum discount it will help get you closer to your $400 target.

I will say it is LOUD at WOT and quiet when you are just on the HWY cursing with is the perfect combo. It sounds like what you want and it sounds like what most people prefer, just like you they see the price and look for something cheeper and try to justify. Only I am VERY glad I gave it a second thought and spent a little over budget and got them. 0 regrets on my purchase and after install I never looked back.

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I ran MBRP's axle back for a year or so. It looks good and fits good, if you can find a deal on one go for it (and IMO it would probably fit a lot better than the Pypes). It's been so long since I had the factory cats on my car I can barely remember, but I do recall it sounded good outside the car but was not bad at all inside the car. Pretty mellow for a straight through axle back until you get on it, then it barks!


I do have a video of my car from back when I had the factory cats with the MBRP's...just idle and revving, but I'll post it if you're interested (I'm at work, can't get the link right now, youtube is blocked)
A link to that video would be great. Thanks.

The MBRP's are back on the top of my list. Man, I just wish I could ride in a car with Pype-bombs. I did test drive an 06 GT when I was looking for my 10. It had some forms of Pypes on it because I saw the name on the tips. And crap it was so loud it scared my son! hahah. I couldn't get on it too much cause it was so loud.


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They are hands down the best exhaust I have ever owned and worth every penny. ha

Yeah I mean the FR500S are a little over the $400 budget, but look on eBay and see what you can find. With AM they are on sale now and combined with the forum discount it will help get you closer to your $400 target.

I will say it is LOUD at WOT and quiet when you are just on the HWY cursing with is the perfect combo. It sounds like what you want and it sounds like what most people prefer, just like you they see the price and look for something cheeper and try to justify. Only I am VERY glad I gave it a second thought and spent a little over budget and got them. 0 regrets on my purchase and after install I never looked back.
Thanks for the info. I want to rev it and have people look. Or when I start it to have people say "WTF was that".. haha, childish eh? But oh so fun

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Back to the original question, I think it is two things:

1) some people just always say that whatever they have is great, couldn't admit a bad purchase if it bit them on the nose

2) some people just plain like loud, and are not bothered by the drone

And yeah I have the FR500S mufflers and they are just right.
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Man, I just wish I could ride in a car with Pype-bombs.
My wife and test drove a 2007 with headers and Pype-bombs. Problem with that car was the Police could here you coming when you got on it. We could hardly talk while riding down the highway. Was just too much.

We bought a 2010 Gt with stock exhaust. Christmas brought a set of Pype's Violators - a chambered muffler. Nice sound for the price. Planning on headers down the road and I think the combination will be perfect for us. Can say that at WOT it sounds like the muscle car it is...

If I were rich I might have opted for Corsa.

One thing about the Violators that surprised me was the increase in power I felt. Axlebacks are not supposed to give you any increase in horsepower. But I felt the same increase I have felt with my UDP and CMDPs - that would equate to 6-10 rwhp. I would expect the Pype Bombs to do the same.

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. . . . Problem with that car was the Police could here you coming when you got on it. . . . .
LOL, yeah the FR500S is like that . . . that is the only drawback, they are quite loud in heavy throttle / high RPM . . . also kinda puts a damper on spirited driving on the residential country back roads around here.

But at light throttle cruising they fade into the background and no drone at all.

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Thanks for the info. I want to rev it and have people look. Or when I start it to have people say "WTF was that".. haha, childish eh? But oh so fun
The FR500S is exactly that. When you rev up the car it is LOUD. Anything above 3-4K+ and 50-60%+ throttle and it is REALLY LOUD. When it first starts up I always get people looking around. I have a remote start so I love starting when I am walking to the car and watching everybody especially car people looking for where it is. haha


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LOL, yeah the FR500S is like that . . . that is the only drawback, they are quite loud in heavy throttle / high RPM . . . also kinda puts a damper on spirited driving on the residential country back roads around here.

But at light throttle cruising they fade into the background and no drone at all.
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