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Cold Air Intake 2007 Mustang V6

I know this is an old question but what is the best valued cai without a tune for a 2007 v6?

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I would get a tune no matter what but if your bent on getting some performance and possibly running lean then im pretty sure K&N claims to not need a tune, i sure wouldn't wanna risk it though


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Agree... K&N is about the only choice.

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I agree with what XChris says.... get the tuner first... If your engine runs lean you will be doing a major rebuild or needing to put in a new motor. Lean is a recepie for disaester.... and if Ford sees the engine was running lean they will know and you can kiss your Warranty bye bye... and the cost will fall on you. Better to listen to the advice from XChris and Stlwagon than take the chance of losing a motor. It is always better to be running slightly richer than slightly leaner.

Those are my thoughts from experience..... LOL
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I put on the BBK without a tune as the manufacturer reccomends. I have had no issues but I the comments about "dissaster" concern me now.

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I installed a AEM Brute Force CAI w/ a 91 octane tune on my V6. So when I sold my tuner (thinking I was going to sell the car). I kept the AEM knowing that it would still work w/o the tune. Well, after I drove the car w/o the tune I was surprised. To be honest, if I had to do it all over again, I'd just stick w/ the AEM and blow off the tune. The difference with and w/o the tune wasn't all that noticable. The AEM allows my car to breathe enough to reduce peddle lag (read: more "pep") And I switched back to 87 0ctane. I will say, if any mod is really worth getting, it's a better exhaust. The stock one stinks. So, get an exhaust and an AEM and you should be happy. Add a tune later if you think that isn't enough.
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you might not have felt that big of a difference but your car might have, your not going to "feel" your car going lean, your probably doing damage to your car without a tune but hey, its not my car, i just wouldn't wanna take the risk, its either $400 for tunes and a tuner or $3000+ for a new motor

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Running lean simply means that the air/fuel mixture is not optimized and there is more air than there should be.

This means that the combustion in the cylinder is going to be hotter, hence, the motor will run hotter and be more susceptible to overheating.

Also, the air/fuel mixture is more susceptible to pre-ignition.

This means that the cylinder will fire before it's supposed to, causing a "pinging" or "rattling" noise when the engine is under load.

This pre-ignition, or pre-detonation, is what is most harmful to a motor. This is because the piston is not in the perfect position for the combustion.

The consequences of long-term and/or severe "pinging" are cracked pistons, wrist pin damage, and even holes in pistons.

Installing a CAI that leans out your motor is not in itself going to destroy it.

It's not great for it, but if you don't hear any pinging under load, then it's not bad enough to worry about.
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Also, if you think your car is running lean, pull a spark plug and check.

If it's nice and light brown, then it's fine. If it's white, then you are running lean.
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Running lean simply means that the air/fuel mixture is not optimized and there is more air than there should be.

This means that the combustion in the cylinder is going to be hotter, hence, the motor will run hotter and be more susceptible to overheating.

Also, the air/fuel mixture is more susceptible to pre-ignition.

This means that the cylinder will fire before it's supposed to, causing a "pinging" or "rattling" noise when the engine is under load.

This pre-ignition, or pre-detonation, is what is most harmful to a motor. This is because the piston is not in the perfect position for the combustion.

The consequences of long-term and/or severe "pinging" are cracked pistons, wrist pin damage, and even holes in pistons.

Installing a CAI that leans out your motor is not in itself going to destroy it.

It's not great for it, but if you don't hear any pinging under load, then it's not bad enough to worry about.
BINGO! No ping, no problem!
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you said it yourself, running a cai without a tune in itself is not going to blow anything right away but your knowingly doing damage to your car, even if its slow its still damage

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Running a CAI with no tune is disasterous? I think that is completely untrue.. A cold air intake is intended to put colder air in the engine, not more air.
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S&B also makes a nice intake tht doesnt need a tune at all from what i hear

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Running a CAI with no tune is disasterous? I think that is completely untrue.. A cold air intake is intended to put colder air in the engine, not more air.
Not to be rude but you would be completely wrong in that statement, a cold air intake does infact take in more air

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415 rwhp/470 torque @12 psi Car died 6/23/09
New Set Up: 4.6 3v With Manual Trans, Bolt Ons
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Obviously there are two mpoints of view on this.

I just can't believe reputable manufacturers would sell these CAI's and say they work without a tune knowing they could damage your motor. In the wonderful sue happy USA I would bet they would have been sued if it happened before. Then they would just put a small note on the packaging- "not reccomended without a tune."


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