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Which clutch do you perfer?

I'm pretty sure I glazed my billet steel flywheel the other day. I have a Zoom stage 3 ceramic clutch set and maybe 4,000miles without the supercharger and not even 300miles with it. My car isn't even hooking up the tires and I think I glazed the flywheel. It went from real fast to seeming like the tires are always spinning under a hard acceleration even tho I know i'm not spinning them at all. I can smell the clutch also. I talked to my tuning shop and he told be to stay away from anything non-organic for the street. He told me to install a 03-04 cobra clutch set on my car. He says they can handle up to 650 horse. He installs them on 4.6 3v with whipples pushing 12 psi and Frpp cams, race exhaust, 530rwhp and no problems. What do you guys think?


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I'm pretty sure I glazed my billet steel flywheel the other day. I have a Zoom stage 3 ceramic clutch set and maybe 4,000miles without the supercharger and not even 300miles with it. My car isn't even hooking up the tires and I think I glazed the flywheel. It went from real fast to seeming like the tires are always spinning under a hard acceleration even tho I know i'm not spinning them at all. I can smell the clutch also. I talked to my tuning shop and he told be to stay away from anything non-organic for the street. He told me to install a 03-04 cobra clutch set on my car. He says they can handle up to 650 horse. He installs them on 4.6 3v with whipples pushing 12 psi and Frpp cams, race exhaust, 530rwhp and no problems. What do you guys think?
500 mi is the recomended minimum break in period before you hammer on it.... most likely you smoked er'. i have a spec stage 3+ and alum flywheel but it isn't in yet, waiting on sqidd for some "special parts"


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Yeah thats what I understand, I have 4300 to 4800 miles on it. More than enough

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A SPEC Stage III with a billet steel flywheel would be nice.

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Spec Stage 2+ Clutch, This particular stage can hold up to 669 ft/lb of torque! I think this is the clutch for me.... Anyone have it? I want to get away from the crappy chatter of the ceramic clutch to this. This should be way more clutch then I need. I think I'm around 470tq at flywheel and I only plan maybe another power improvement of 50 more horse and torque.

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I have the SPEC Super Twin Disk (700-1500 ft lbs tq) with Billet Aluminum Flywheel and just love it...!!!

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I've got the Spec 3+ with low pedal requirement and the spec billet steel flywheel. Sucks balls during break-in but I love it now that it's broken in.

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A little glazing is no problem and can easily be taken care of. Now if you burn't in some heat spots you may have issues. Why did you choose a ceramic puck? Ceramics and metalics are more abrasive which will cause more wear and tear. Its always a trade off. A good organic will handle the job. I'm running an organic single disc and it is doing the job perfectly.
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[email protected] I went to D&D performance in Wixom MI, they sold me a Kevlar stage 2 clutch. That clutch was used before I had my supercharger and it was good until you drove the car for a while, till it reached operating temp. Then it wouldn't release, With the car in neutral and the clutch pushed completely in the car would still try to lunge forward. We sent the clutch back to the manufacture they tested it told us it was defective. Warped pressure plate from them(30 day warranty and we were at day 60). They had D&D performance upgrade us to a stage 3 ceramic for free( for our trouble) and D&D sold us a billet steel flywheel for $150. So we had too much clutch for our car for a year and thought we would of been all set for the supercharger(580ftlb tq rating). I hate that clutch, it is just like a light switch on/off, crappy first gear take off, it squawks and chatters. After first gear it drove fine, but don't get stuck in a traffic jam or the Woodward dream cruise. I think its glazed, I need to get it in the air and see whats wrong.

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Didn't sound like a bad deal to start with...sometimes the proper amount of abrasive and pressure can go a long way. I've never been over to D&D just Liberty's.
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Oh I learned how to drive it just fine. But it didn't hold up to the new power. The pedal is firm at first then starts to get a bit mushy after any acceleration(this is how I found out that it does this). I killed the clutch from a rolling start against a 2011 grand sport vette in front of the gm tech center in warren, on mound rd. Just last week they had a ride and drive up their if you knew somebody that worked their. My friend up their told be to bring my mustang down their and smoke one of the engineers of the vette team in that vette. I did the first race and second didn't go too good at all. I could smell the cooked clutch and flywheel. It was safe enough to drive 40mins home, but anything more that 1/4 gas pedal and it didn't want to move too good. The car is shifting just fine so assuming the pressure plate is intact and keeping the clutch to the flywheel. I just think that the flywheel is a bit cooked and polished now. :yelpleased: I don't think that clutch was appropriate for me. I hear ceramic needs to get warm to hot before they grab real nice. I raced on a cold clutch after all the test driving.

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