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View Poll Results: Stick or automatic?
Stick 115 65.71%
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I Voted AUTO. I can drive a stick but with my left side being f'ed up it is so much easier for me.


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The survey is slightly skewed-
High percentage of V6 mustangs are "Auto" (many secretarial cars)
GT Mustangs. Will have a higher "Stick/manual ratio
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Stick or Automatic?

It depends on what year and how I'd be using it. If I had to chose between a '95 auto and a '95 manual I'd go with the manual. If I was choosing between a new one I'd probably go with the auto if all else was equal. The new auto transmissions have come a long way. More often than not they'll be faster than theirs manual counterpart these days.


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Obviously the newer car will outperform the older one in just about any measured performance category you can dream up, so it's more about how well these two cars can be equipped to match what you want from them. Do you really think you'd use or drive a S550 GT any differently than you would a V8 SN95?

I'm thinking on a "driver's attitude" level here, or how you react to the ways the different cars "drive" with either transmission. Not the all-out hard numbers themselves.


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Obviously the newer car will outperform the older one in just about any measured performance category you can dream up, so it's more about how well these two cars can be equipped to match what you want from them. Do you really think you'd use or drive a S550 GT any differently than you would a V8 SN95?

I'm thinking on a "driver's attitude" level here, or how you react to the ways the different cars "drive" with either transmission. Not the all-out hard numbers themselves.


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Nah Mr. Peterson, I wasn't comparing the performance of a 95 with a '17.
I was comparing the performance of a '17 with a manual and a '17 with an auto. I don't have any first hand experience with the new ones but it seems like the general consensus is that the autos are quicker than the manuals. It wasn't that way in 95.


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Straight and level traffic driving - Auto
Driving on a hilly curvy road - Stick
Driving in Snow - Stick
Someone learning to drive - Auto

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Nah Mr. Peterson, I wasn't comparing the performance of a 95 with a '17.
I was comparing the performance of a '17 with a manual and a '17 with an auto. I don't have any first hand experience with the new ones but it seems like the general consensus is that the autos are quicker than the manuals. It wasn't that way in 95.
I must admit I didn't think AT's were at any significant disadvantage in the mid 1990's. Unless the AODE's and 4R70's were particularly poorly suited to drag racing.


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Straight and level traffic driving - Auto
Driving on a hilly curvy road - Stick
Driving in Snow - Stick
Someone learning to drive - Auto

Young - Stick
Old - Auto
Unless you mean "old at heart", I gotta call you on that last one.



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Straight and level traffic driving - Auto
Driving on a hilly curvy road - Stick
Driving in Snow - Stick
Someone learning to drive - Auto

Young - Stick
Old - Auto


He nailed it.


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I must admit I didn't think AT's were at any significant disadvantage in the mid 1990's. Unless the AODE's and 4R70's were particularly poorly suited to drag racing.



Unless you mean "old at heart", I gotta call you on that last one.



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Maybe not. But weren't they pretty dumbed down with the stock tune? Low and slow shifts? How about the aod vs a t5? The aod was horrible.


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Up until automatics with more than 4 speeds came into common use, I thought that anybody the least bit serious about racing any automatic did either a shift kit or a torque converter or both. Separate from an axle gear swap.


My wife and I are both retired (in our late 60's). Even now, neither of us has any intention of shopping for a car with automatic. Just saying . . .


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Up until automatics with more than 4 speeds came into common use, I thought that anybody the least bit serious about racing any automatic did either a shift kit or a torque converter or both. Separate from an axle gear swap.


My wife and I are both retired (in our late 60's). Even now, neither of us has any intention of shopping for a car with automatic. Just saying . . .


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Good thing y'all missed out on the AOD, yall would've hated it.
Y'all are hard core. How is the lack of manuals affecting your car shopping these days?


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At this point, it's nothing more than the way some cars "work". A way that happens to be the way we've come to expect all of our cars to work.


Our typical car buying cycle is probably longer than that of most folks (around 6.5 years) and the length of time we keep what we do buy is definitely longer (averaging a bit more than 14.5 years at this point), so shopping hasn't been too much of a hardship yet. But we have "jumped ship" at least a couple of times, once after Chevy stopped offering the 4M in their RWD intermediates (bought first Maxima) and again when Nissan dropped the MT in the Maxima line and went to 100% CVT fitment (that's what prompted us to get her the Subaru Legacy GT).


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I've had both and in the S197 at least, the manual was at a significant disadvantage on the road, at least in the straight line dept. The wheelhop, tendency to just blow the tires off, rubbery shifter, occasionally crunchy gearchange and dancing rear axle made it a flawed exercise, needing some aftermarket help right out of the gate. The auto, at least the 13+ one, really just puts everything the tires' traction on street surfaces can provide right to the ground. 9 times out of 10, I'll holeshot a stick S197 with the auto, on the road.

On a really good day, the stick can have the edge at the dragstrip because the automatic's torque converter is too tight and costs the the car some jump down low in a high traction situation. You'll never miss a gear but, trying to get a decent 60 out of the stock converter is frustrating. Not wanting to open up my DD office car, I overcame that little flaw with a 100 shot of spray, right out of the hole. With that it 60s as good as the old manual car ever did, and wins downtrack too, obviously.
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