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Bad News For Ford

I know that American Auto company's aren't doing so well but this is sad for a lot of people.


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Not really a surprise (read the "Ford Needs Saving" thread in the Mustang Lounge, it's a pattern that's been going on for years.)

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Maybe it has something to do witht he fact that Ford has abandoned the motto "Quality, Job number 1" for the new motto "bold moves". in my opinion, not bold enough. Quality and value is rapidily going out the window. I have three Ford products right now, all of which are less than one year old, and two of them (Mustang is one) has already had warranty issues. To be compettive, you need to be affordable, maintain quality, be reliable, have the availability and be a great value...Ford is rapidily sliding away from that formula.
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Not really a surprise (read the "Ford Needs Saving" thread in the Mustang Lounge, it's a pattern that's been going on for years.)
If this keeps up we may need to re-name that thread "Ford is beyond saving".

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whoops someone already beat me to posting that same article.. SORRY!!! I guess I should look closer next time!
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I 've been a Ford person for years. I have owned 3 1969 Mustangs, 1978 Bronco, 1980 F-150, 1981 Ford Courier(Mazda), 1982 Ford F150 4x4, 1988 Thunderbird Turbo-Coupe,1994 F350 4x4, 2000 F350 Crew Cab 4x4, 2001 Ford Taurus, 2001 Mazda B3000(Ranger), 2002 Ford Excursion 4x4, 2003 Ford Ranger Edge, and 2005 Mustang. All were purchased new except for the 69's. The Ranger is my daily driver and I drive about a 100 miles a day on it around Austin but when it comes to fuel mileage it sucks bad averaging 12 mpg. I guess I should have known about that since my B3000 only got 14mpg. But my Excursion averages right at 15mpg but it's a diesel. Diesel here is about $0.10 more than unleaded. Anyway the point I'm making(or trying to make) is that Detroit needs to improve their gas mileage on all of their products and not use these figures they pull out of their a$$e$. My Ranger has never come close to their mpg numbers. How do they get these numbers? In a vacuum, downhill, dropped out the back of a plane, with nothing on the frame of the truck. When you spend $55.00 every 2 days on fuel for 220 miles. There's a problem and until they increase legitimately they will lose out to the ricers.

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I dont think their problem is mpg's I'm pretty sure Fords cars are about the same as any one elses in that dept. Where they fall short is probably in marketing their cars properly and in interior quality. I still dont know what they were thinking when they designed the 500. What a mess that is. That car should have been some sort of spin off of the 427. That would have sold. Probably would have been good competition for the 300C. I think the fusion is a step in the right direction, they should really build off that one.

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whoops someone already beat me to posting that same article.. SORRY!!! I guess I should look closer next time!
Thats ok but only because your much better looking than me....
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I dont think their problem is mpg's I'm pretty sure Fords cars are about the same as any one elses in that dept. Where they fall short is probably in marketing their cars properly and in interior quality. I still dont know what they were thinking when they designed the 500. What a mess that is. That car should have been some sort of spin off of the 427. That would have sold. Probably would have been good competition for the 300C. I think the fusion is a step in the right direction, they should really build off that one.
I am not so sure the Fusion is on the right track. I have a 2006 Fusion as my daily driver...here is my perception. Very nice styling, decent comfort and amenities, significantly lower gas mileage then claimed (like 30% less, no matter who drives), less than ideal quality, and leass then ideal power (consider it has 221 hp) with severe throttle lag. In my opinion, decent car, but not an Accord killer.
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Thats ok but only because your much better looking than me....

hahaha thanks.. I feel like a dummy though.
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I feel like going home! (Stuck at work.)

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Sure, sales has alot to do with gas mileage and prices. Take a look at pickup and suv sales since the price of gas went up.

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It is no surprise that this is happening because they have abandoned quality. And their dealers are a hassel to deal with after you buy a car from them. (Maybe not all but most of the ones I've been to). Especially when it comes to getting warranty work done. Customer satisfaction is the #1 thing that brings people back and unfortunatelly I think ford has forgoten about this. It is very sad that alot of people are going to lose their jobs for this. We can only hope that ford gets their s**t straight.

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Sure, sales has alot to do with gas mileage and prices. Take a look at pickup and suv sales since the price of gas went up.

Yes, I just meant that Fords vehicles arent any worse on gas mileage than the competitions, so we cant put a lot of blame on that alone.

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I am not so sure the Fusion is on the right track. I have a 2006 Fusion as my daily driver...here is my perception. Very nice styling, decent comfort and amenities, significantly lower gas mileage then claimed (like 30% less, no matter who drives), less than ideal quality, and leass then ideal power (consider it has 221 hp) with severe throttle lag. In my opinion, decent car, but not an Accord killer.
I have a Fusion 2006 also and I agree with you about the mileage. Handles well, quiet ride, love the styling, but 221 hp is plenty for that car. There's not to many sedans over 221 hp in the Fusion price range. Toyota, Nisson and Honda are quite a bit more expensive. I think those V6's around 240 to 250 hp. I think if Ford improves the build quality a bit and used a little better quality interior materials, improved that gas mileage, at the same price, they would be a good competitor.

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