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Yes, another Hurst shifter thread

I searched the threads, and didn't find a whole lot on this one:

I installed the Hurst shifter, and while it is nice and positive shifting around town, just cruising around, when I want to shift through the gears quickly, it simply WON'T. There is no binding, no grinding.

Installation was double-checked- everything installed correctly.

When I try to move up through the gears quickly, no matter how much pressure I apply to the shifter, the gears take forever to mesh/engage. It's horrible, and I cannot imagine trying to drag race with it. The stock shifter actually moved the gears quicker!

Is there something wrong with mine, or is this tremec trans just a slow-shifting mutha? I'm talking about a full second to change a gear!!! Have I been driving transaxles too long?

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I read it but, I better keep my mouth shut ! I have been know to be very opinionated about shifters...

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I read it but, I better keep my mouth shut ! I have been know to be very opinionated about shifters...
Come on Gig... Tell us again about the Pro 5.0.

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Come on Gig... Tell us again about the Pro 5.0.
I would LOVE TO but I think I will get flogged if I do!

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C'mon guys- give it up. Have I been duped with this Hurst? If this truly is the way these things are supposed to work, then it is a real POS. My rabbit diesel shifted about 8 times faster than this thing.

All I want to know is: Is this the way it is, or is something wrong with mine?
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C'mon guys- give it up. Have I been duped with this Hurst? If this truly is the way these things are supposed to work, then it is a real POS. My rabbit diesel shifted about 8 times faster than this thing.

All I want to know is: Is this the way it is, or is something wrong with mine?
I don't have the same problem. Shifts are a lot firmer than stock and a lot more positive into 3rd than before. It is a bit notchy, but I'm used to it now. I do wish it had stops like the 5.0.

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So, you are able to shift quickly into gears with the Hurst?
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So, you are able to shift quickly into gears with the Hurst?
Yes, especially since the throw is almost 3 inches shorter.

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Is the rapid shifting at higher RPMs?

My Hurst works perfectly at shifting rapidly, however I do tend to mishift more if I am near 6000 RPMs...

Faulty shifter is my best guess!
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Well, I crawled underneath the car (again), removed the plastic bushings, then cleaned and re-lubed them with a lot more grease this time. I then cleaned the threads and nut on the transmission linkage, applied heavy duty Locktite, and only tightened the nut "snugly" (snuggly?). It is shifting better now, but I am still not happy with it. Maybe I'll send it back. Hard to believe it's the shifter, though- all this shifter does is move the one linkage rod back-and-forth while rotating it, and just about any assembly is capable of doing that. I'm thinking its the transmission. More to come later....
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Yes, especially since the throw is almost 3 inches shorter.
IMHO, shift throw distance has little to do with shifting speed. A 9 inch throw that has no resistance will shift faster than a 3 inch throw with a lot of resistance.
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Is the rapid shifting at higher RPMs?

My Hurst works perfectly at shifting rapidly, however I do tend to mishift more if I am near 6000 RPMs...

Faulty shifter is my best guess!
I am not getting any mis-shifts. The gates seem to be fine, just slow engagement regardless of rpm.
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I power shift (or a near power shift) mine at the drag strip. I can shift as fast as I can and it easily goes into gear. I shift fast enough where I can lay a good long patch in 2nd gear and a decent one in third.

Are you babying it? Can you just jam through the gears or won't they let you in at all until they sync? How long is the sync?

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I think maybe there's something wrong with your unit. I've had nothing but a positive experience with mine, so I'm pretty sure the parts not a POS, (although it may just not be what you were looking for). After I installed mine, it took a short while to master the extra effort required, but once I mastered that and practiced syncing my clutch foot up with the faster shifts, there is a noticeable increase in the speed with which I can move thru the gears - this translates into a bigger fun factor on highway onramps for me (I don't race), though one guy in a previous thread mentions better ETs at the track too.

That being said, based on the specs I've seen and some compelling argument from Gig4fun, this is NOT the best unit available. I think its got good value for looks and snappier around town shifting - but, as Gig4fun will tell you, for serious applications, its probably better to spend the extra $ and get one of the other ones.
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I power shift (or a near power shift) mine at the drag strip. I can shift as fast as I can and it easily goes into gear. I shift fast enough where I can lay a good long patch in 2nd gear and a decent one in third.

Are you babying it? Can you just jam through the gears or won't they let you in at all until they sync? How long is the sync?
No, believe me- I am not babying it. I cannot just jam through the gears- it takes about 1/2 second from intial shifter movement to gear sync, which IMO, is way too long for a modern transmission. The harder I push, the longer it seems to take....

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