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I think you get more gains from a TB and that stuff with a S/C'd engine. The NA engine just doesnt need that much air...the CAI intake will give a NA engine some boost...but I think there is a line where it gets as much air as it can handle.

You probably will notice more of a diff with S/C, Turbo, and Nitrous applications with the TB where you are forcing air into the engine rather than letting it just suck it in.


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Interesting, its something to consider. I guess some people like the TB and others arent so fond. I'm definitely not going to buy a TB Spacer though! Thanks for all the information on the CMCV Delete Plates... This winter I'm going to buy all my stuff, and in the spring I'm going to install them all. One question for those of you who have the plates... how easy are they to install? I am going to do the tune, CAI, pulleys, and whatever else myself, and would like to do the delete plates as well if they arent too complicated. First, I dont want to pay the $ to have somebody work on my car, and secondly, I find a lot of pleasure knowing I did it myself. Plus, I know whats going on under the hood!

On a side note, I may consider a stage 1 cam down the road. Is it worth the $ in your opinion. Granted, this is a ways down the road, but I'm giving it some serious thought!


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One question for those of you who have the plates... how easy are they to install? I am going to do the tune, CAI, pulleys, and whatever else myself, and would like to do the delete plates as well if they arent too complicated.
Delete plates are not hard at all, but a little tedious getting the plenum off. I'd recommend not disconnecting the fuel line, as seems to be suggested in some of the instructions. Most guys, myself included, appear to be simply unbolting the fuel rails and moving stuff carefully around until the plenum can be pulled off the top of the motor.

Also, you'll have to decide what to do with the CMRC actuator motor, which is mounted on the back of the manifold. I removed it altogether, since there's no need for it anymore with no actuator arms to move. I just tucked the connector in between other wires nearby to keep it from hanging loose.

Get a T30 Torx wrench, but no other special tools required unless you decide you will disconnect the fuel line; in which case you'd also need a fuel disconnect tool. A magnetic retrieval tool might also be helpful if you manage to drop a bolt or two between the plenum runners on top of the block, in a nearly impossible-to-reach position (ahem).

Figure a couple of hours - maybe less if you can get a buddy to help you jiggle the fuel rails and lines around while you're getting the plenum off and back on.
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Interesting, its something to consider. I guess some people like the TB and others arent so fond. I'm definitely not going to buy a TB Spacer though! Thanks for all the information on the CMCV Delete Plates... This winter I'm going to buy all my stuff, and in the spring I'm going to install them all. One question for those of you who have the plates... how easy are they to install? I am going to do the tune, CAI, pulleys, and whatever else myself, and would like to do the delete plates as well if they arent too complicated. First, I dont want to pay the $ to have somebody work on my car, and secondly, I find a lot of pleasure knowing I did it myself. Plus, I know whats going on under the hood!

On a side note, I may consider a stage 1 cam down the road. Is it worth the $ in your opinion. Granted, this is a ways down the road, but I'm giving it some serious thought!
I gained around 37 rwhp but I've heard some comments on long term negative impact on the engine.

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37 hp with simply the cam replacement? Pretty impressive... I havent heard anything yet of engine longevity, but I havent seen many threads on the subject either...

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