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need a price for cams

hey does anyone had there car cammed yet what is the h/p differnce and is it worth doing? i need a price installed i really dont want to mess with it too much.if so where is a good place to have them installed near philly



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Figure about $700-$900 for parts and another $800 labor. And it requires special Ford tools (another $300). Not sure of anyone near you. Not an inexpensive job.


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A guy on another forum just did comp cams stage 3 and I believe he got a 30 horse increase at the tire. Only bad thing was he gained no peak torque
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A guy on another forum just did comp cams stage 3 and I believe he got a 30 horse increase at the tire. Only bad thing was he gained no peak torque
Something's really wrong there. I gained almost 35 rwhp and ~30 rwtq above 4000 rpm. I did lose a little low end torque (~5 ftlbs) after the install.

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Something's really wrong there. I gained almost 35 rwhp and ~30 rwtq above 4000 rpm. I did lose a little low end torque (~5 ftlbs) after the install.
He is running the canned tune from Brenspeed still and is scheduling a custom tune soon and expects to see his numbers to go up.

Which cam did you go with on your car to see those numbers? What else have you done to your engine and what's your rwhp now?

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what special tool do you need???
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He is running the canned tune from Brenspeed still and is scheduling a custom tune soon and expects to see his numbers to go up.

Which cam did you go with on your car to see those numbers? What else have you done to your engine and what's your rwhp now?

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In addition to the stage 1s, just a few other boltons, no internal work. The cam numbers are a best guess since I also did the LT headers/x-pipe at the same time. So I don't have a 'cam-only' dyno run. With everyting in my sig (minus the CMCV deletes which are still in the box) I'm @316 rwhp on a Mustang chassis dyno. On a dynojet I would estimate somewhere in the low 340s.

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The dyno sheets the guy i am speaking of posted only showed gains above 4k. The problem with the gains were he lost tw at around 4500 and at around 5 he got it back and the torque didn't fall off as fast. He only gained a peak of 2 rwtq
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what special tool do you need???
In addition to a specialty TDC-stop there's a whole set of other tools (degree wheels, pointers, cam lift indicator) required to degree and install.

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so far these are the tools that i have acquired besides the standard tools like a degree wheel:

3v specific spring compressor
chain wedge
air nozzle adapter to 16mm
16mm piston stop (custom crafted by me)

grand total over 300 bucks

now i just need to find the time

and for the record that guys dyno was posted on the corral on a thread that i started and if you look at the comparison, yeah he does only make gains over 4k rpm but when you are in a racing situation the car is really never below 4k rpms. Think about when you are running the quarter and you shift at 6200-6300 or sometimes higher the engine drops down to like 3800-3900. Most of your time is spent in that rpm range where these cams make a difference. If you want something that helps out below that level to give you a boost running around the streets or going to pick up some groceries then thats fine but if you want to talk about racing these cams work.

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what do you hp and tq gains look like below 4,000 RPM? im not even sure this is a valid question.

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