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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 06-22-2017 Thread Starter
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Bama tuner- many issues

I am new to the forums, I made an account to post this because of the many issues I've had with bama, and I want to get your opinion on this. I was extremely skeptical at first about purchasing this tuner. I wanted to have a dyno tune done but was intrigued by the free tunes for life program. I've been happy with everything I've bought from American Muscle so I decided to give it a shot. Little did I realize, taking this shot would make the tuner worthless and give me so many issues with my car. I will say this clear: I do believe in this product and it does work! I ran all of the custom tunes provided for a very short period of time before my transmission (automatic) got all messed up after running the 93 race tune. As soon as I drove a mile with the tunes, I got 3 codes and my car literally shut off while driving. This is only the beginning of all of the issues. It has been a month or so while running stock, everything is running well, no trans issues and no codes. I have contacted bama many many many times and spend many hours communicating with them. The issue was never resolved. This led me to calling today, and come to find out... they will not issue a refund, they want me to continue to spend more of my time with them and datalog once again. Being so happy with all of my other products, it pains me to say that I DO NOT WANT THIS TUNER! The guy on the phone told me I may be able to get $150 out of This. I have used it only a handful of times. Once you plug it in, it becomes worthless. I love AM and plan to be a long term customer but after this issue, I am reconsidering. I do not want to do any more Datalogs, I don't want any more tunes to download, and I do not want this. What do you guys think and what would you do? What has your experience been like with bama and this tuner?

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post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 06-22-2017
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Don't give up. Sounds like there could have been a corrupted tune file on the race tune that is now lingering. American muscle is a fantastic company. Be patient and let them work with you to resolve the issues. Probably something simple.
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I've been using BAMA with my X3 tuner for about 5yrs now. I only had one issue last year when I installed charge motion deletes on my GT. Turned out the the person who did the tune forgot to account for the CMDP's. Revised while I was on the phone and emailed it; issue solved. I have read some people have gone back and forth with an issue only to turn out that they supplied either an incorrect computer code and/or tuner SN to BAMA when ordering the tune(s). Look over the verification sheet they sent you with each tune and verify these numbers and also check that ALL of your mods are accounted for.

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Well, IMHO, not surprising...............and this is not new either..........

Frustrated with bama performace

Posted 3/16/14 by Wolfmanron

Bama Tune Issues

Posted 1/13/15

“Now my caraccelerates without my foot on the pedal. This scared the crap out of me”

Posted 10/6/16

“Running Bama's 91tune (w/BBK CAI) for the last month and have had issues starting……when turn theignition my car would click and the power intermittently cuts in/out, but wouldeventually start. I usually keep my odometer on the trip odometer, but wheneverI start it reverts back to the total mileage odometer… fuel gauge wasacting a little erratic, so I decided to revert back to stock and tryre-uploading the 91R tune. After reverting back to stock, I couldn't get it tostart.”

Perhaps what is equally important is the parameters that canbe adjusted are set by the OEM vehicle software…so there is really no “magic”in what they are doing anyway. If you look at the dyno charts from many ofthese supposed HP/TQ increases, they are typically around 5%-7% at peak rpmranges…….guess what, 5% is a standard deviation even amongst mfg dynos and ifyou go to this link:

theengineers at Ford racing have a article on just exactly how these “tuners” playgames with the hp/tq ratings, how calibration can cause misleading dynoresults, & some of the “tricks” that are used to gain supposed powerincreases when in fact, mis-managing your engine.....and the most importantitem is……these "mail order tuners' are not regulated like any other autorepair shop in the if they "damage" your car...gee,sorry...sue me!...and unfortunately, as you have found out, their warranty assist places control in the hands of them...but, I am not a lawyer, but, IIRR, it's a federal law that anything purchase by mail has to have a 30 day return policy......IMHO, I would read up on this very carefully and evoke my (buyer) rights.

IMHO, if you live near any major city there are excellenttuning specialists with dynos who for the same price (if not less) will tuneyour vehicle taking into consideration your specific needs includingenvironmental conditions, for your specific vehicle. IMHO, the best bang forthe buck!

If you are comfortable and understand how to tune a vehicle,you can also do this yourself. There are several software programs available,that “Speak Common English” that will allow you to tune your vehicles ECM. Onecompany is HP Tuners, they have a website….they offer two core programs, onefor those who are doing dyno tuning and one for the home-garage mechanic (whichis priced at about the same as most of the “canned tunes on the market) …this versionlimits the span of adjustments as a safeguard against doing something outsideof the oem scope……basically, keeps you from doing something “too stupid byaccident” (grin)

If you are dead set on a mail order tune, the only one Iwould recommend is Blue Oval Chips...the gent (Lonnie) is a Ford MSE (PCM/Trans) and hasbeen around for decades (20+)....some will say, "he wouldn't do this, that, etc.".......yes, and there is a good reason for that.

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I started running a bama tune 10 yrs ago with the x3 tuner when doug owned bama chips, as he had the wicked shifts figured out for the auto trans. I also ran tunes by chris rose that were good before he came to american muscle, but he didnt have the shifts doug had. When am bought bama from doug, and chris came to am, they combined tunes and had it going on. This was good cause you needed a tune to run a jlt intake, and was able to get a little more out of some of the mods, and set shift points up to a little over red line ect.

I`m still running a 93 race tune, same one now for like 8 + yrs, no issues at all and still happy with it. Your tune shouldnt have anything to do with your gas gauge or your odometer. My speedo was set to reflect the right speed with over sized rear tires (1" taller) and my gear. The only time I ever had a issue with acceleration was trying to get the throttle body motor to work on the aftermarket throttle body. Finally gave up on that and went back to stock tb.

If your car ever had the computer changed or messed with that could cause problems getting a tune to work maybe, or if you gave them the wrong numbers, or if a dealer ever flashed the computer to a different stock tune and didnt change the tag with the number. That might just be your problem.

After all these years, it still packs a punch, and runs great. Hope you get it figured out.
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my opinion-$.02-thoughts. Bama tunes are not worth anything, as you've found out. your tuner however is still good and well worth the money you've put into it. Beechkid put together a good list of threads and where to get a good tune. the reactions/answers will be all over the place as said above, 8+ years on SAME tune, no issues. SAME tune is key phrase. I have no experience with Bama, but I do read ALOT on here and other forums. I use a different mail order tuner and have had no issues at all, never. never a follow up call/email. tunes work when I change octanes etc. you've only lost 1 marry since plugging in your tuner to your car, there should be 4 left. you can use it as many times as you want on your car, just put it back to stock and unlock it from your car before you decide to sell it. the next buyer will have 4 unlocks left and so on. I know your frustrated as are most that have recently used Bama. take a deep breath, order new tunes from a reputable tuner, delete the crap off your programmer and start fresh with good tunes. its also a good idea to get the SCT updater and Live wire programs so you can update the firmware and look up codes. youll need to put the stock tune back on your car prior to updating the tuner, just don't start your car while doing it, especially if you have aftermarket bolt ons. good luck
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