I never turn it off - even at the strip I put it in Sport mode (brake light lit and double click the button) mine is stock but still dangerous with traction fully off. I don't know about the GT but my 12 Performance pkg V6 traction control was very invasive - as in nearly breaking my nose on the steering wheel cuz it would just pull all the throttle out sometimes - the 14 is no where near as harsh when it steps in, especially in sport mode.
I have read bad reviews about Bama but have no personal experience. Having said that I will be going with a Lund tune on my 14.
At the end of the day it is your car so you should do what makes you most comfortable with it. I understand that the stock tune really makes the auto lazy and slow. On the upside if you don't like it you can always reinstall the Bama tune you've got.
I hit sport mode every time I start her up. I turn everything all the way off when I know I'm about to race. Back in my stock 2011 every single time I started up unless it was raining I would turn all the nannies off and it was always predictable, even if it broke loose. In my tuned 2012 when it breaks loose its a holy $hit moment.
Don't beat yourself up too badly. The guy in the first Focus RS that you waxed was probably the bad driver. On street tires it's a rare mustang that will take a hot hatch in the early going. They go about 4.5 sec 0-60 and with the AWD it doesn't matter much if the road is good or bad. They just go. It's a rare mustang that beats that by much on dusty, crappy city streets.
Congrats on being man enough to admit you got done in by a Focus. I have never until now, inspired by your example, admitted that I took a similar bad beat. My daughter was driving my winter STi Subaru and gave me a lesson to remember one day. Absolute win for her up until well into third or maybe even 4th. God, it feels good to finally get that off my chest.
Wondering if maybe you are looking at more of a tire problem than a tune issue? If it's great everywhere else but just too powerful off the line and at slow speeds well....that just doesn't sound like a bad thing. Just needs more traction. Suspension and tires. Or only go the RS's from a decent roll. (Not that anyone should do this on the street, naturally. Closed course, professional driver and all that....) Not loving the sound of it wanting to go sideways all the time, though.
Good luck with it and hope it works out for you.
All the best.
Hahaha! I'm glad you got that off your chest. This is like a group therapy session.
Yeah unless the situation is ideal, the RS will take the jump due to AWD. I just had the launches in my 2011 down to almost a science. Minimal wheel spin and it just hooooooked the whole way, broke loose a little from 1st to second, and then continued to hook.
It sounds like the issue with the tune is that the throttle response is extremely exaggerated. I think they do that on purpose to fool us into thinking we are getting a lot more performance from the engine; I think that's where most of the "it's like night and day" comments come from.
Before you can go back to the factory tune, you have to make sure that your intake is the same diameter as stock. I think Air-Raid does offer a "no tune required" model but I don't know which one you have. If the MAF metering section is bigger than stock, then the tune MUST be adjusted or the computer's math will be wrong, it won't command enough fuel for the air that is coming in, and the car will run lean.
Another option would be to work with a different tuner, such as Lito. I am not sure how much he charges but I plan to look into it soon for my car. You should be able to work with him to make sure you get nice linear throttle response, rather than the on/off extreme response that you have now.
Then it sounds like tires are in order also . . .
Completely agree -- it feels like the tune opens up the throttle body all the way too early on in the rpms, it just revs too quick in first gear for there to be any sort of grip.
Thanks for the advise on the intake diameter. Let me know how the tune with Lito goes! You described it perfectly, the throttle response is like on/off now, as opposed to linear. Great at higher speeds, but just no hope of traction at lower ones.
You need control arms, a good set of LCA's and the upper. My car with all nannies turned off with destroy the tires if I want to, but it tracks straight. Good tires are also a must as has been stated. If you are concerned about the tune I would go with an AED tune.
What control arms do you have on currently?
Sounds like a TIRE issue. Get some better rubber out back there and enjoy the tune's power better. ALL Mustangs are under-tired from the factory. I have a tuned 14 auto and I roll into the gas off idle and I'm pretty much unbeatable off the line on the road. 285/35/19s Goodyear F1 Asymmetric all-seasons all round on the stock BBP wheels.
I would love to get wider tires, but I already have Pirelli 245s... I could probably stretch to 255s on my stock 19 by 8.5 wheels, but anything more and I would need to buy all new wheels AND tires, like 19 by 9.5s.
I remember years ago, (Ed) Isky was building cams for one of the elite drag racers..... he insisted on getting more tq lower....isky fought him but eventually gave up and gave the team what they wanted....their 1/4 mile times slowed down...they blamed everyone except themselves......several years later they sold the car, the next guy called isky and wanted a cam....he sold them the exact cam that he made for the other team........IIRR, they turned .5 seconds faster ..... all because there was too much tq too low to control......and agree with the TPS being the issue.
Remind me again what TPS stands for?