Official 2011-2014 MT-82 manual tranny shifting problems. - Page 4 - Ford Mustang Forum
View Poll Results: Are you experiencing rough/notchy/stiff shifting with your MT82 6-Speed?
Yes, I am experiencing rough, notchy, and stiff shifting 263 71.27%
No, I am not experiencing rough, notchy, and stiff shifting 106 28.73%
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I'm trying to figure out why some have problems and some dont or is it something thats going to shine its ugly head to everyone with a manual? Mines a little notchy on cold mornings but goes completely away when its warm. I hope if somethings going to happen to mine it happens soon. The wait is killing me.....


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So I had the dealer take a look at this last Friday. After several technicians drove it, they felt that the behavior was normal for the car. Although they weren't 100% sure that nothing was wrong because this is a new transmission for the 2011's and their only point of reference for how it should feel is from the 2010 and previous cars. But they had it documented and I'm to follow up with the Ford customer service rep tomorrow.

Curiously, I took it out to GMR (a very twisty/technical mountain road) on Sunday and after coming back from constant 3k to 6k RPM driving, my MPG has improved by 1 and the shifting is a little better when warm. It's still notchy and clunky in the cold morning though, but that's true for any manual transmission.

So while the shifting has gotten worse overall since I got the car new, I'm just waiting to see if it gets any worse than it currently is. I'll take it into the dealer again if that happens.


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This MT82 seems to be junk. Maybe its just the clutch but I really hope they fix this cuz this is making me sick having this problem.
Why not have the dealership swap out the flywheel, clutch, pressure plate / clutch cover / spring assembly and the bolts now?

They haven't publicized a fix yet, but at least w/ working parts the transmission damage will abate.

There is no reason to trash the gears, syncros and shafts in your brand-new transmission while Ford figures a repair and fills the pipeline w/ good parts.

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Same here. Smooth when new, and now notchy into 2nd (sometimes feels like a synchro issue), although not all the time. I can find no rhyme or reason to it. Seems to me it is worse when shifting around corners although that is not always the case either. I have not noticed an issue with 1st gear. Car has 3100 miles on it now. I was out last Sunday here in the DC area and temp was 46F, no issue at all and car was stone cold. I thought that was strange as I am sensitive to the issue and look for it. It surprised me that it did not occur at all, 2nd gear engagement from first was butter smooth the entire 60 minute drive. Have not had it out since last Sunday. Really makes no sense. Build date from door jamb sticker is 6/10. If you need VIN let me know. I have not had it to the dealer yet...

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I was contacted by Ford Customer Service Specialist, Sara, as promised by Deysha. Went over all the details with her and she agreed that I should just give it more time and that now that everything is documented and I have a case #, things should be in place for repairs/recall/TSB or whatever Ford determines the problem is and how to fix it. In the meantime, I have it semi-stored for the winter (can take it out on dry days), and if it continues to get worse I will take it back again. What a PIA! As if this isn't enough, I scraped a parking curb backing out Friday night and now have a cosmetic flaw on my front bumper, which I discovered while washing/waxing/prepping for storage on Saturday! Crap!
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This is what I noticed.

When I depress the clutch and try to shift into 1st gear, it is very resistant and notchy. Then, without letting out the clutch at all, if I move the shifter back to neutral and then back into 1st, it is "buttery smooth" on the second attempt. However, if I put it back into neutral and do let out the clutch and try to shift into 1st again, it is back to resistant and notchy. I did this about twenty times straight sitting idle, and the results were 100% consistent.

Same applies for 2nd gear.

I have absolutely no idea what it means, if anything.

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I know that there have been some loose and stretched bolts found but I'm really leaning towards synchros in the transmission on this one. Mine goes in this morning, so we'll see what they find in our car...

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I got a voicemail back from a Service Manager at a semi-local dealership and he said the issue is caused by pressure plate bolts and that they have repaired other cars with the same 1st gear symptoms. I also came across the following:
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2011 MUSTANGS EQUIPPED WITH MT82 MANUAL TRANSMISSION - EXPERIENCING VARIOUS CLUTCH SYMPTOMS
2011 MUSTANGS EQUIPPED WITH MT82 MANUAL TRANSMISSION MAY EXPERIENCE DIFFICULTY SHIFTING INTO REVERSE AND 1ST GEAR, LOW CLUTCH PEDAL RESERVE OR CLUTCH PEDAL FEELING VERY LIGHT. POSSIBLE CAUSE COULD BE LOOSE CLUTCH PRESSURE PLATE BOLTS. REFER TO WORKSHOP MANUAL SECTION 308-01 (CLUTCH REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION FOR APPROPRIATE ENGINE APPLICATION). CLEAN THREAD MATERIAL FROM FLYWHEEL BOLT HOLES WITH APPROPRIATE NON-OIL BASED SOLVENT. DURING INSTALLATION BE SURE TO INSTALL NEW PRESSURE PLATE BOLTS (W715869-S439) AND TIGHTEN ONE TURN AT A TIME IN A STAR PATTERN UNTIL ALL BOLTS REACH A NEW TORQUE OF 63NM (46 LBFT). TIGHTEN EACH BOLT AN ADDITIONAL 60 DEGREES IN A STAR PATTERN. USE APPROPRIATE LABOR TIMES FOR REPAIR. WSM IS BEING UPDATED


I have to take my car back in for an unrelated issue this weekend, I'll bring this up to them then.
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I got a voicemail back from a Service Manager at a semi-local dealership and he said the issue is caused by pressure plate bolts and that they have repaired other cars with the same 1st gear symptoms. I also came across the following:

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2011 MUSTANGS EQUIPPED WITH MT82 MANUAL TRANSMISSION - EXPERIENCING VARIOUS CLUTCH SYMPTOMS
2011 MUSTANGS EQUIPPED WITH MT82 MANUAL TRANSMISSION MAY EXPERIENCE DIFFICULTY SHIFTING INTO REVERSE AND 1ST GEAR, LOW CLUTCH PEDAL RESERVE OR CLUTCH PEDAL FEELING VERY LIGHT. POSSIBLE CAUSE COULD BE LOOSE CLUTCH PRESSURE PLATE BOLTS. REFER TO WORKSHOP MANUAL SECTION 308-01 (CLUTCH REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION FOR APPROPRIATE ENGINE APPLICATION). CLEAN THREAD MATERIAL FROM FLYWHEEL BOLT HOLES WITH APPROPRIATE NON-OIL BASED SOLVENT. DURING INSTALLATION BE SURE TO INSTALL NEW PRESSURE PLATE BOLTS (W715869-S439) AND TIGHTEN ONE TURN AT A TIME IN A STAR PATTERN UNTIL ALL BOLTS REACH A NEW TORQUE OF 63NM (46 LBFT). TIGHTEN EACH BOLT AN ADDITIONAL 60 DEGREES IN A STAR PATTERN. USE APPROPRIATE LABOR TIMES FOR REPAIR. WSM IS BEING UPDATED




I have to take my car back in for an unrelated issue this weekend, I'll bring this up to them then.
What is the document that was quoted?

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What is the document that was quoted?
It's not a TSB if that's what you're asking. If Ford is like other companies there is a BBS type system for service techs where they can share information. That's what I'm assuming this came from.
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I have to look at my first clutch repair to see if they used the new bolts or not. Either way, the problem returned quickly. To be honest, I'm hoping they replace the tranny, flywheel, clutch assembly and slave. That HAS to solve the issue because it certainly isn't the Motor or drive shaft.
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It's not a TSB if that's what you're asking. If Ford is like other companies there is a BBS type system for service techs where they can share information. That's what I'm assuming this came from.

EDIT: It's from Oasis. I've got more info ona possible fix. I'll be posting up here soon.
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I started the thread - "2011 5.0 Rough Manual Shift' on "mustangforums.com" and now want to be part of this official thread. My 5.0 / Manual 6Spd was born on 6/10 and has as detailed before, the rough shift from 1st -> 2nd most pronounced when cold, a bit smoother when warmed-up. My mileage is at 4600 and the symptoms continue without any improvement. Please advise...
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I just posted this solution to this issue.

https://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...ml#post2331043
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I just posted this solution to this issue.

https://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...ml#post2331043
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Ok so I just finished talking to the service manager at my dealership and got some pretty hard answers to the issues we have been having with the clutch. First it sounds like Ford has a fix for the problem. The fix is new flywheel bolts. The problem is that Ford put to much loc-tite blue on the bolts at the factory. This caused the bolts to basicly hydrolock in the threads ( that means that the bolts are not seating properly). the fix is installing new flywheel bolts that use yellow loc-tite and are now torque specific( means one time use). This also means that each time the clutch is replaced the bolts must be replaced. The cost at this point is around $1.00 a bolt. If you are have the issue of your clutch not fully disengaging causing the transmission to not shift then this is the solution.

I have been told that the flywheel should not be warped due to the materials the flywheel is made from. They said it would take extreme high heat for a very long time frame to warp the flywheel.

Also they are not seeing transmission problems due to this issue the gears and syncros are not being harmed. They say the most damage that should be seen is the clutch will be fried and the pressure plate will need to be replaced.

If you are having this clutch issue STOP DRIVEING NOW. Do not drive the car with this problem. Go to the dealership and have them order the bolts.

I will get the Ford part number as soon as I can for everyone. The normal parts departments will not know this new part number.

I will update as soon as I have information.
Why do we need a new topic?

This post has the bolt part number.


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