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Barton Shifter and Bracket. Does it help with Mt82 problems?

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Just a simple question to those of you who have MT82 problems who installed Barton shifter and bracket.

Did you see any improvement after you installed them? How did your whine, grinding, rough shifting improve with Barton equipment?

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To answer your questions, replacing the shifter bracket will improve feel and precision of the shifter and many like it so much they leave in the stock shifter assembly. However noise will transmit more through the denser shifter bushing than the stock rubber bushing and whine will be more prominent.

I apologize if your Mustang experience is limited to the forums but I have gotten tired of everyone saying "MT82 problems" instead of the more accurate "shifting problems". There are more components in the vehicle resposible for shifting gears than just the trans and the ignorance is spreading like wildfire. For those having issues this will only make getting their cars fixed take even longer.

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I don't know about the Barton, but I installed a JHR bracket and it made the shifting more precise while increasing the level of driveline noise in the cabin considerably.

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Hi

Just a simple question to those of you who have MT82 problems who installed Barton shifter and bracket.

Did you see any improvement after you installed them? How did your whine, grinding, rough shifting improve with Barton equipment?

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I don't know about the Barton, but I installed a JHR bracket and it made the shifting more precise while increasing the level of driveline noise in the cabin considerably.
Have the JHR bracket and shifter, had same problem. Took off the sound tube, noise is 95% gone.
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I have the Barton products. It improved shifter feel but does not fix the notchiness. If you have grinding issues, I doubt it will fix it. Lot of haters on the Barton stuff lately.

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I have the Barton products. It improved shifter feel but does not fix the notchiness. If you have grinding issues, I doubt it will fix it. Lot of haters on the Barton stuff lately.
The Barton products seemed very trendy and the excitment rose and fell very sharply. But that should not reflect poorly on the products themselves and more on the market. Barton was the second to the market with a short throw shifter, Steeda being the first. I think the bracket(Both Barton and JHR, which I have) are very well designed and innovative in the performance field but far from necessary for an enjoyable driving experience.
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Have the JHR bracket and shifter, had same problem. Took off the sound tube, noise is 95% gone.
Sound tube? You mean the duct in the engine compartment? I was wondering about that.

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Sound tube? You mean the duct in the engine compartment? I was wondering about that.
Try here!

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I have a total screw-ball combo: Steeda Shifter and Barton Bracket. They have been on the car since I hit somewhere between 150 and 250 miles on the odometer and am just over 2000 miles now - around 2200-2300. (Can't remember when). The transmission shifted fine before but it's much more "direct" if that's the correct term, and it now has quicker/shorter shifts. My build date is 8/10. There is much less side to side play. The only time I get a grinding noise is when I screw up the shift. I only have to push the peddle down about half way to shift the gears. I have read were some have double-pumped and had to press the peddle to the floor board to make a shift. That would suck.

The bushing added some NVH but not enough to matter (IMO).

Totally off topic here (sort of):
I've never had any issues with the MT82 other than being Chinese made.

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I have a '12 GT with the 6-speed, but I don't know what the trans model is.
FWIW initially every time I jumped on it, the damn thing wouldn't let me change gears quickly. After reading on here that the Barton shift bracket would solve that problem, I got one.
And it did. I felt like it maybe took 75 miles or so to 'break in', but from then on I could rip through the gears at WFO no problem.
HOWEVER....! I just installed a Boss intake and new tuning, and when using the 'Race' or 'Performance' tune(s), the thing apparently now has enough power to overpower the Barton bracket as well. When ripping on it, I gotta let the thing calm down a tad before I shift.
I'm using the stock linkage, and I would imagine a beefier shorter-throw linkage will probably help,if not solve it entirely, so I'm gonna pick one up when I get around to it.
The bracket is cheap and easy enough to install that it's definitely worth it to put one on, IMO

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