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Oil Type vs Tick loudness

Ok, just a fact gathering mission. It appears that every 5.0 has this ticking noise. Ford is telling folks it is normal, and I believe them. Some folks have it louder then others and some folks can't hardly hear it at all.

The various post about the "mystery additive" and the different posts about various oils got me to thinking. I think the loudness and frequency of the ticking is dependent on the type and brand of oil being used. Especially when you see the post of folks complaining about the tick and Ford shipping the mystery additive to the dealership. This mystery additive seem to quiet things down. Also, the tick seems to happen after oil changes.

Please post the oil brand and type that you are using and the loudness of your ticking. Please don't say you don't have the tick because that is not true. Every 5.0 has it to some degree. You probably don't hear it.

Ticking descriptions should be listed as: Very faint (can't hear it in the cabin), Slight tick (can hear it in the cabin very faint), Moderate (Hear it when driving by block walls and in drive through restaurants) and Very loud (Sounds like a drummer).

This information will can be very useful to the folks who have a very loud tick.


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I have factory fill Motorcraft 5W-20 synthetic blend with 3800 miles and an INAUDIBLE tick. That is to say, there is no single engine noise that stands out above all other normal engine noises. Unless of course you pop the hood and stick your ear up against the valve cover. For reference, here is an example of a car that I would say has the tick:

‪2011 Mustang GT 5.0 engine tick‬‏ - YouTube

My car is extremely quiet even at operating temp on 100 degree days. When the time comes for oil change I will definitely go Mobil 1 full synthetic, but may use 5W-30 for the extra long term protection.


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Ok, just a fact gathering mission. It appears that every 5.0 has this ticking noise. Ford is telling folks it is normal, and I believe them. Some folks have it louder then others and some folks can't hardly hear it at all.

The various post about the "mystery additive" and the different posts about various oils got me to thinking. I think the loudness and frequency of the ticking is dependent on the type and brand of oil being used. Especially when you see the post of folks complaining about the tick and Ford shipping the mystery additive to the dealership. This mystery additive seem to quiet things down. Also, the tick seems to happen after oil changes.

Please post the oil brand and type that you are using and the loudness of your ticking. Please don't say you don't have the tick because that is not true. Every 5.0 has it to some degree. You probably don't hear it.

Ticking descriptions should be listed as: Very faint (can't hear it in the cabin), Slight tick (can hear it in the cabin very faint), Moderate (Hear it when driving by block walls and in drive through restaurants) and Very loud (Sounds like a drummer).

This information will can be very useful to the folks who have a very loud tick.
Horsecrap. If the ticking is normal, why do vehicles only do it immediately following an oil change?

I drained the 5W-20 out of my motor and refilled it with 5W-30 Mobil 1. It did not affect the noise at all.

The weight of the oil is irrelevant. Several dealers have replaced the stock 5W-20 with a mixture of 5W-20 and thick gear oil, and it has not affected the ticking sound at all.

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Yes, that is what I would call the "very faint" tick. This is almost exactly what I have but mine is even quieter. I truly believe this is a normal condition for the 5.0s.

I am not sure what brand of oil the dealership put in last month but the tick has stayed about the same (second oil change, 10,000 miles). I will call on Monday and find out.

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Horsecrap. If the ticking is normal, why do vehicles only do it immediately following an oil change?

I drained the 5W-20 out of my motor and refilled it with 5W-30 Mobil 1. It did not affect the noise at all.

The weight of the oil is irrelevant. Several dealers have replaced the stock 5W-20 with a mixture of 5W-20 and thick gear oil, and it has not affected the ticking sound at all.
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With all due respect, I guess you did not read the OP as your question is answered there. Please do so before you comment. Thanks this thread is meant to be helpful (if possible), and you completely missed the point.

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With all due respect, I guess you did not read the OP as your question is answered there. Please do so before you comment. Thanks this thread is meant to be helpful (if possible), and you completely missed the point.
Fine, Motorcraft full-synthetic 5W-20 makes a loud ticking.

Mobil 1 full-synthetic 5W-30 also makes a loud ticking.

Oil weight has nothing to do with it, and if this was normal, the engines would do it when new and ALL of the motors (not just some) would do it.

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Fine, Motorcraft full-synthetic 5W-20 makes a loud ticking.

Mobil 1 full-synthetic 5W-30 also makes a loud ticking.

Oil weight has nothing to do with it, and if this was normal, the engines would do it when new and ALL of the motors (not just some) would do it.

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Thanks. Ford puts the mystery additive in the motors at the factory. No more additive (oil change) the ticking starts. Many folks have said that Ford shipped this mystery additive to their dealerships when they complained and the ticking stopped. This is my theory on why the ticks start after oil changes. From what I have been reading, It appears that the loudest ticking is associated with synthetic oils. I just want to see if my theory is correct.

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I just don't understand this "tic" thing. If you owned a 4.6 3v you would love how quiet the 5.0 is compared to it.

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I just don't understand this "tic" thing. If you owned a 4.6 3v you would love how quiet the 5.0 is compared to it.
Thats great, my 4.6 was noisy as well. What oil are you using?

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Mobil1 5w20 the tick is same loudness as it was with the Motorcraft oil the car was delivered with

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Mobil1 5w20 the tick is same loudness as it was with the Motorcraft oil the car was delivered with
Can you describe the tick loudness better? Thanks.

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I still have the factory oil with 3800 miles on it. I will use Amsoil 0w20 when I change it.

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I'm not sure this applies to the 5.0 but here goes . Over at www.Raptorforumz.com there's alot of people that have been screaming bloody murder about engine ticking in the 6.2 . Some have had their top halves replaced . But what was interesting was alot of people found out that the Cannister Purge Valve ( CPV ) was what was doing the ticking, not anything inside the engine . After the dealer replaced this part the ticking stopped . Now several people said it took up to 3 CPV replacements to stop it permanently. Aparentally some of the replacement valves were bad right out of the box .
I don't know what a CPV does but there's a pic of one in one of the threads on ticking .
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I have no ticking noise on my car. I have 1200 miles on it and have not changed the oil yet. I even stick my head in the engine bay and the only thing I hear are the injectors.

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I have no ticking noise on my car. I have 1200 miles on it and have not changed the oil yet. I even stick my head in the engine bay and the only thing I hear are the injectors.
All I hear is the injectors and I think that's what a lot of people are calling their tic.


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