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When was the most recent tune sent to you? Could you please PM me your most recent tune order number so that I may confirm you are the most up to date with a possible tune to resolve this issue for you. We have been waiting on SCT for assistance in correcting a "back-end" issue for these and we are pretty confident that this should be resolved very shortly.

It definitely is annoying and we want to correct it for you immediately. Please get back to me at your earliest convenience and we can go from there! Have a great night!
My tune file is dated April 11, 2011. I'm running the Brenspeed 93 Race tune with the rear o2's off. Ive been almost 8 montes trouble free until now. From your post I was under the impression that it didn't require new tune to correct, but that there would be an update for the SCT device itself to fix this issue. If a new tune is the only way to correct the problem, then I will contact Brenspeed again. Thanks for your help.


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Got a new tune from AM and so far so good. Car seems to drive better and strangely, it seems to be quieter.


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Got a new tune from AM and so far so good. Car seems to drive better and strangely, it seems to be quieter.
When did you get your new tune? I just have mine tuned for the o/r x-pipe yesterday so I assume I should be good. I'll post back if I have any problems.

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Got the new tune yesterday.

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My tune file is dated April 11, 2011. I'm running the Brenspeed 93 Race tune with the rear o2's off. Ive been almost 8 montes trouble free until now. From your post I was under the impression that it didn't require new tune to correct, but that there would be an update for the SCT device itself to fix this issue. If a new tune is the only way to correct the problem, then I will contact Brenspeed again. Thanks for your help.
No problemo! Yes, I would check with Brenspeed to see what they think about either re-tuning or whether the SCT fix will be enough. Keep up with the thread here and post up if you continue to have problems. We are trying to stay on top of this on our end so that no one in the future will have this problem even once. I know you don't have a tune from us, but please don't hesitate to ask if I may be of assistance in any way!

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Got a new tune from AM and so far so good. Car seems to drive better and strangely, it seems to be quieter.
Awesome, glad to hear, Nicholas! Thanks again for your continued patience and understanding. Our Tuning Specialists have been working very hard to correct this issue and with other tuners experiencing it as well, it seems like the SCT fix for this needs to come sooner rather than later. You know how to get a hold of me. Please keep me updated and let me know how it's going or if there is anything I can do personally to assist you! Have a great night!

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I hope the SCT fix will not be to just prevent from seeing the CEL (turning it off) when it would really be on. Hope it is a true fix!
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I hope the SCT fix will not be to just prevent from seeing the CEL (turning it off) when it would really be on. Hope it is a true fix!

Yes, part of the reason it has taken us this long to get a working fix is that other "fixes" out there for this issue are to just turn off the signal for this DTC to keep from turning on the CEL. This is obviously good for getting the actual CEL off, but it doesn't correct the issue and that's what we do here at AmericanMuscle and BamaTuning; we correct the issue, we don't put a bandaid on it.

We very much appreciate all the patience and understanding from all you guys, while we correct this issue. It's definitely never fun to have to deal with something like this, but our Tuning Specialists are some of the best out there and they are working very hard to get this straightened out ASAP. As evidenced by Lund and Brenspeed customers having this issue, this is something that needs to be corrected and not just banded as some others have done. We will work to get this right, because that's the right thing to do!

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https://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...o2-sensor.html

Has anyone gone the route of having the O2 sensors replaced completely to correct the CEL? Did you have warrenty issues? And did it fix the problem?

Trying to put all of this together and it seems our solutions are to have a new tune that blocks or prevents the code, an SCT update, or possibly the front O2's replaced.

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So far with the Bama updated tune I'm up to 90 miles with no issues. By the end of the weekend I should be able to call it good.

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Has anyone gone the route of having the O2 sensors replaced completely to correct the CEL? Did you have warrenty issues? And did it fix the problem?

Trying to put all of this together and it seems our solutions are to have a new tune that blocks or prevents the code, an SCT update, or possibly the front O2's replaced.
o2 sensors are very expensive and that would be my last choice of action(paying for them personally, at least).

We have a few guinea pigs out there trying out our most recent(hopefully, finalized resolution) tunes for this issue right now and as of today have not had any CELs popping back up. I think with the resolution we have put in place and the SCT update, this should be a thing of the past. If it isn't, we will go back to the drawing-board and get it figured out.

The issue is that this is happening to every tuner(the ones that actually keep the CEL-code active at least) and so there is no real way of knowing if it's a difference in tunes/parts or just the factory o2 sensors being overly sensitive/active. We have to remember that this code is being tripped by an AFR imbalance between each bank of cylinders and that difference is less than .1 points. If it were something major, like a full point, then yes, it would be alarming, but in all honesty, that's not that bad. Nothing that would keep me from driving the car or worry me while driving it at least. It's an annoyance, yes, that is why we are working to correct it, but is it a disaster? No.

At this point, all we can do is wait and see if those testing our solution to the problem have the code pop back up.
If you are a poster who has experienced this and got an updated tune from us, please check in and let us know and give us an update on your current mileage without a CEL. This way we can keep track of tunes/dates/CELs. So, please reply with:
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This should be a good format to start with.

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Just some info on my end, i receied a new tune about 2 weeks ago, i put about 800 miles on the car and the CEL popped again after i filled up my car. Sent a email already to Bama about this, haent checked the thread again since it went away hopefully there has been an update since mine was last since.
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There should have been. I just got a new tune Wed/Thursday with a good fix. So far all is good with ~160 miles on it. Then again it has gone upwards of 200 miles before tripping.

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Just some info on my end, i receied a new tune about 2 weeks ago, i put about 800 miles on the car and the CEL popped again after i filled up my car. Sent a email already to Bama about this, haent checked the thread again since it went away hopefully there has been an update since mine was last since.
Yes, there has been an update since your tune 2 weeks ago. Please check your PMs, I'm going to collect your order information so that our Tuning Specialists can get you the most up to date tune. As of our most recent update, we have found that the issue should be resolved and our most up to date guinea pigs are experiencing CEL-free driving for upwards of 1000 miles now.

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There should have been. I just got a new tune Wed/Thursday with a good fix. So far all is good with ~160 miles on it. Then again it has gone upwards of 200 miles before tripping.
Cool, keep me updated, Nick! If you could either post here once a week or PM me directly once a week with your most recent mileage and whether or not the code has come back, that would be really helpful! Our Tuning Specialists want to nip this in the butt and get it resolved once and for all. The more information we can collect about the results, the more definitive our solution can be considered. Thanks again for working with us to help this issue get resolved for everyone! Have a great evening!

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I think a 1000 mile test is in order before anyone can say he is resolved due to the infrequency of the cels. I went 500 miles by just reloading the same tune and clearing the code. I only cleared the code this last occurance, and am 160 miles on that. Brenspeed says I am the only case they have out of 1000s of tunes. They gladly offered me a new tune, but ammitted they knew of nothing they could change to actually fix the issue. Can you all at AM give more specifics on what you think needs to be adjusted in the tune to fix the problem? Can the sinstivity of what is tripping the code be relaxed maybe?

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Yes, there has been an update since your tune 2 weeks ago. Please check your PMs, I'm going to collect your order information so that our Tuning Specialists can get you the most up to date tune. As of our most recent update, we have found that the issue should be resolved and our most up to date guinea pigs are experiencing CEL-free driving for upwards of 1000 miles now.



Cool, keep me updated, Nick! If you could either post here once a week or PM me directly once a week with your most recent mileage and whether or not the code has come back, that would be really helpful! Our Tuning Specialists want to nip this in the butt and get it resolved once and for all. The more information we can collect about the results, the more definitive our solution can be considered. Thanks again for working with us to help this issue get resolved for everyone! Have a great evening!
Will new tunes automatically be sent out to everyone who has an offroad x/h pipe, or will we need to request it? I just put mine on but the car is garaged for the winter, I probably won't be putting any real miles on it until things thaw out for good in Ohio so I won't know until March(ish) until I'm throwing this code.


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