Asphalt Cowboy, I've read your opinions on the subject in a bunch of other threads. I respect where you're coming from but you are really going out of your way on this forum to try and rain on everyone's parade who is going for this tune. If you had the tune and it damaged your engine, caused warranty problems, or really affected your life in any measurable way, I would get it. But you're on the outside looking in. Leave a warning comment on every single Procal thread if you must, but try to let it go.
Also, try to not spread misinformation. This tune does not in anyway cause you to "lose the full warranty" you had. It's just not true.
I had to take a leap of faith just buying the Mustang in the first place after reading all the MT-82 **** storm all over the internet. Eventually I decided, it's what I want, nothing is perfect, DAMN THE TORPEDOS! So far, I'm glad I did.
I disagree. His viewpoint is important and I appreciate having it. He is just making sure people get a realistic impression of it. I remember over on the Genesis Coupe forums. Anyone who suggest that a tune could ever cause problems and was not 100% safe was branded a troll. People came asking the legitimate question of "Is this safe and could it damage my engine or cause me to have expensive repairs not covered by warranty" The response was allways "its 100% safe and cant cause any problems and can never even be detected by Hyundai" which was 100% false.
Its not nearly that bad around here,but there is a bit of that going on. There are some risks and drawbacks with the FRPP tune. The risks are for the most part mitigated by the FRPP warranty which is just an amazing thing in my opinion and also shows their confidence in the product. Still,there are risks. If you lose an engine after the 36k warranty but while still in the powertrain warranty ,they could blame it on the tune and your SOL. The answer is to find a really good dealer that does not play games like that. Still,what if it IS the tunes fault. Then you have a problem.
Hes not saying dont do it. Hes just saying that you should keep that in mind if you do. We hear tons of people going on about how awesome it is,and I have no doubt at all that its just as great as they say. What those true believers don't tell us though is what the potential drawbacks are.
I do have a open question though,has anyone heard of ANYONE who has had to exercise the FRPP warranty to have an engine problem fixed that was blamed on the tune. I wonder how often it happens.
I was warned at the dealership about something to be careful of. He said a customer had a procal and was flashing his car back to stock himself. (it had initially been done at the dealership) The battery went dead halfway through and screwed up the PCM. Ford refused to warranty it because it was the customers fault. He tried to put it through the FRPP powertrain warranty and even went to bat for him and tried to get FRPP to cover it but they refused and he had to pay out of pocket for a new PCM. He said it happened to one of their techs once but Ford recovered it for them by having them send it in. To me that's a total BS,they could have offered to do that for the customer,and charged them some reasonable amount. Instead,they sold him a new PCM,and probably took the old one as a "Core" and did exactly that,then resold it. The moral of the story is,put it on a charger like they do at the dealership when you flash it.
Sometimes, I see cops with their backs turned writing tickets. When I drive by I can see them stick their heads up,and sniff the air,catching a whiff of exhaust and burning rubber,the crimson smell of speed,telling them a Race Red Mustang is somewhere nearby!
2012 Race Red GT, Kenwood Navigation system with Metra dash kit,GT500 steering wheel,Steering wheel buttons INCLUDING BT enabled,Takeoff leather seats with seat heaters.