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Cool, I actually scrolled down and saw your vid after I posted that message and I like what I hear! It sounds the way I imagined it would. Im definitely leaning towards the paxton/vortech kits, but I'm still doing my homework. It will be awhile before I buy anyway though I just replaced all the kitchen appliances.


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Whatver you get will be awesome. If you decide to go with a vortech or paxton I really recommend talking to beefcake. I have nothing but good things to say about the guy. He is the best vendor have ever delt with. By a long shot.


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Cool, I actually scrolled down and saw your vid after I posted that message and I like what I hear! It sounds the way I imagined it would. Im definitely leaning towards the paxton/vortech kits, but I'm still doing my homework. It will be awhile before I buy anyway though I just replaced all the kitchen appliances.
I have been driving around with the windows open and heat on.. You don't really hear the blower whine, but it sounds cool when the bypass valve is open lol. It makes a lovely symphony IMO.

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Captain's log: Day 5

I ordered a set of plugs from the Ford dealer, then called Shaun from AED on my lunch break with the intent of setting up an appointment for a tune to get my issues sorted out (CEL for misfire at high RPM, surging idle/1/4 throttle). He told me it doesn't sound like a tune related issue to him, and that it sounds like I need to have the crank sensor reset. I didn't swap the clutch out or anything, but the belt was off while the car was on ramps. I'm almost positive the e-brake was set so the car wouldn't roll, but could be wrong.. it could be possible that it moved a degree from the car rocking or something, who knows. I have read that certain tunes wipe out enough data to require a crank learn. Either way I have an appointment first thing in the morning tommorow at Levittown Ford. I have had positive experiences with them in the past, but I found it odd that the need to keep the car to "diagnose" it. I will speak with the service manager when I drop it off and see if it can be done on the spot, I know its a simple thing to do and would do it myself if I had the ability to. Will update tommorow with results

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Good luck and please keep us up to date!

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Thanks.. Ford did a crank relearn, it might be my imagination trying to justify the wasted money but the car feels smoother. Unfortunately the misfire happened again at the top of 3rd gear. I am swapping my plugs tommorow and going over the car again. I am kind of pissed that I couldn't get the colder NGK plugs by Monday.. I have a track rental paid for, and really don't want to miss out on it. So far I have spent $230 trying to fix a $5000 kit and a week of my time. I'm getting a little frustrated, and really hope the plugs do the trick. One of the plug's electrode looked a bit smaller than the others.. If they don't I guess I'll throw some Torco in it and see if it helps to buy me Monday at the track.

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Thanks.. Ford did a crank relearn, it might be my imagination trying to justify the wasted money but the car feels smoother. Unfortunately the misfire happened again at the top of 3rd gear. I am swapping my plugs tommorow and going over the car again. I am kind of pissed that I couldn't get the colder NGK plugs by Monday.. I have a track rental paid for, and really don't want to miss out on it. So far I have spent $230 trying to fix a $5000 kit and a week of my time. I'm getting a little frustrated, and really hope the plugs do the trick. One of the plug's electrode looked a bit smaller than the others.. If they don't I guess I'll throw some Torco in it and see if it helps to buy me Monday at the track.
I don't know close to what the guys at AED know. But I don't think is the plugs. The plugs could give you a small miss at idle but at part throttle or wot they shouldn't cause any misses or codes if you gap them to 0.32. Also make sure that your maf is clocked properly. Around 5 o'clock if you look at it from driverside fender. If all that is checked I'm sure that the issue is tune related.

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I don't know close to what the guys at AED know. But I don't think is the plugs. The plugs could give you a small miss at idle but at part throttle or wot they shouldn't cause any misses or codes if you gap them to 0.32. Also make sure that your maf is clocked properly. Around 5 o'clock if you look at it from driverside fender. If all that is checked I'm sure that the issue is tune related.
I am pretty confident that Shaun knows what hes talking about, he said to check the clocking of the MAF too.. I don't want people to think he doesn't know what he's talking about, because I didn't quote him word for word.. I am just trying to eliminate any possible problems while I have time. If I didn't go to Ford yesterday for the relearn and buy the plugs I wouldn't be able to try either one by Monday. In my head, the miss would happen when the plug needs to work the hardest, high RPMs at high pressures. I think mine is clocked at 6 o clock (perpendicular to the DS fender.) I'll try clocking it to see what happens. Thanks for the info.

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I am pretty confident that Shaun knows what hes talking about, he said to check the clocking of the MAF too.. I don't want people to think he doesn't know what he's talking about, because I didn't quote him word for word.. I am just trying to eliminate any possible problems while I have time. If I didn't go to Ford yesterday for the relearn and buy the plugs I wouldn't be able to try either one by Monday. In my head, the miss would happen when the plug needs to work the hardest, high RPMs at high pressures. I think mine is clocked at 6 o clock (perpendicular to the DS fender.) I'll try clocking it to see what happens. Thanks for the info.
Ofcourse Shaun knows what he's talking aboht man. What plugs do you have in there now?

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Ofcourse Shaun knows what he's talking aboht man. What plugs do you have in there now?
The stockers gapped to .034.. im going to switch them out for a new set of stockers gapped to .032. Btw I gapped them the right way. Without touching the electrode.. I clocked the MAF and it seemed to run smoother, but the CEL lit up and stayed on this time. I'm going outside to play with it now..

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Why don't you try a set of ngk 6510. That's what I have and they run good. Btw they should have them at your local autoparts.

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def swap to the ngk 6510's, you should be running 1 heat range colder

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Why don't you try a set of ngk 6510. That's what I have and they run good. Btw they should have them at your local autoparts.
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def swap to the ngk 6510's, you should be running 1 heat range colder
On the phone trying to get a set locally now.. Swapped the plugs and found the quick disconnect from the PS valve cover to the IAC housing wasn't clipped in all the way. I am looking at the Ford Racing M-12405-M50 plugs.. They are a step colder and supposedly pre-gapped to .035. I'll see which ones I can get locally I guess. I'd be kind of pissed at vortech if the colder plugs solve the issue. They specifically said not to use a colder plug in the instructions. If it didn't say this I would have ordered a set of colder plugs when I got the kit, It would make perfect sense if the heat range was causing the CEL.. It seems to only do it during extended pulls, I would imagine thats when the tip of the plug would absorb the most heat. Some of the plugs I took out of the engine looked kind of ******, but I can't understand why if I don't feel a misfire, the AFR is a steady 11.89 and the timing is a steady 15. I am going to try to figure out how to use SCT's datalogging software and make a "friendly" call to vortech so they can check it out.

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11.90 afr is generating a lot of heat dude. I would try to fatten the mix a bit.

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11.90 afr is generating a lot of heat dude. I would try to fatten the mix a bit.
I am thinking of cutting half a degree of the timing and fattening it up a bump just to be on the safe side. I am willing to sacrifice a few HP in the name of safety. I am not 100% that the number was 11.9, but I was making sure it was in the 11's, not the 14s lol. I hope I am not totally screwing myself, but I am going to play with the tune using my diablo tuner. It is much nicer to work with than the supplied SCT and honestly I don't trust SCT's software.


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