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#1 ·
Same old song and dance I guess. My experience hasn't been so great lately with bama and there tunes! I'm switching THIS WEEK to another tuner! I DO NOT have time for all this! I want someone who is going to tune my car rite and do it rite the first time! Is this possible with an e mail tune? I've herd good things about AED/Shaun and have an e mail from him stating that he'll send me over the base map to log when I'm ready. But it's 250$. And a speed shop here locally will dyno tune me for 250$. Are Shaun's tunes really as good as everyone says? Or should I just get the dyno tune from cincy speed? My car is a 2013 5.0 mt-82 base with a CAI, cat deletes, and a ZEX blackout coyote kit currently set up on a 75shot


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#2 ·
I had a Bama tune and wasn't happy with it so I switched to AED. Driveability and power are completely different. I got my car dyno'd this weekend to see what kind of power I was making and the shop owner said that he honestly didn't think he could tune it any better on a dyno. His lead tech was standing there and told me he never says that to anyone
 
#3 ·
Same old song and dance I guess. My experience hasn't been so great lately with bama and there tunes! I'm switching THIS WEEK to another tuner! I DO NOT have time for all this! I want someone who is going to tune my car rite and do it rite the first time! Is this possible with an e mail tune? I've herd good things about AED/Shaun and have an e mail from him stating that he'll send me over the base map to log when I'm ready. But it's 250$. And a speed shop here locally will dyno tune me for 250$. Are Shaun's tunes really as good as everyone says? Or should I just get the dyno tune from cincy speed? My car is a 2013 5.0 mt-82 base with a CAI, cat deletes, and a ZEX blackout coyote kit currently set up on a 75shot


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A 75 shot is not much, but I would still put it on the dyno, there's no sense risking a 5 figure engine to save the price of a good meal on tuning.
 
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Same old song and dance I guess. My experience hasn't been so great lately with bama and there tunes! I'm switching THIS WEEK to another tuner! I DO NOT have time for all this! I want someone who is going to tune my car rite and do it rite the first time! Is this possible with an e mail tune? I've herd good things about AED/Shaun and have an e mail from him stating that he'll send me over the base map to log when I'm ready. But it's 250$. And a speed shop here locally will dyno tune me for 250$. Are Shaun's tunes really as good as everyone says? Or should I just get the dyno tune from cincy speed? My car is a 2013 5.0 mt-82 base with a CAI, cat deletes, and a ZEX blackout coyote kit currently set up on a 75shot


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I don't think there is a "perfect" solution to your issue. The ECU (Engine control unit) in the 2011+ GT has a lot of sensor inputs. It also controls the Twin Independent Variable Cam Timing (TIVCT - think of that as changing out from 1 to 4 cams on the fly as the engine conditions change). The Coyote ECU can set the engine timing seprately for every cylinder and do that based on engine load, cam settings, rpm, gear, intake temperature, oil temperature and several other factors. Finding a "local shop" that REALLY understands the Coyote engine, and knows how to optimize the tuning parameters, is much harder then with earlier model engines. With "bolt on" modifications, the "big Mustang tuners" probably have much more knowledge and "experience" then the "local tuners," making their "mail order tunes" a good choice - including Diablosport themselves. Also, because of the number of "control factors," it has gotten much harder to "figure it out," in a few dyno pulls. Since you have more then the "normal bolt-ons," the problem gets harder. If it was me, and I really wanted to do the best thing for my engine, I would try to take the car - physically - to one of the big name tuners and let them use their knowledge plus the dyno input to create a tune for the car. Just my $.02:winks
 
#6 ·
See if the local tuner does remote tunes with AED...
 
#9 ·
Best idea yet.........:yup:
 
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#7 ·
I think that if you're expecting huge results from a mail order tune, you're going to be dissapointed. Back in the day all tuning had to be done on a dyno, now we have "mail order" tunes - a decent idea in theory - but it will never be the same as tuning your car on a dyno.
 
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Yeah, try and see if "Bama" can make it right......And paying $250.00 for a great peace of mind tune is not as expensive as replacing your bullet........But one thing that I Will Not Allow Here.......Is ANY Bashing of our Site Sponsors....:nono:..........Sean
 
#14 · (Edited by Moderator)
Not to be a but what if said sponser is a horrible one (not saying bama is) are we not allowed to say what we feel???



Anywho.... I started with a bama tune while it was great and a good price (basically free) it still leaves a lot on the table. Which is understandable because they are just base maps that will work on all vehicles... Just like AED starts out with... he uses a tune that is safe for all cars... no matter what the altitude... then customizes the tunes for your vehicle... BAMA doesnt do that and again why should they, you didnt pay any extra... they sell the tuner for 379... you try to find a new SCT tuner for less than that.... you really cant.. (maybe like 360 but not much difference) so basically your getting a free tune...

People bash bama because they arent as powerful as other tunes... well they may push the envelope more and charge you for it, Bama does a great job with what they have.

Most people dont know they will provide a N2O tune up to a 100 shot... which is cool... name another company that will do that...

Also they dont require you to buy the parts from them.. they will send you out tune files (like when i purchased a BOSS intake from a fellow member) no questions asked... sounds like a winner to me.. :D


So basically what im getting at is you get what you pay for... AED is an awesome tuner and works hard to get you results.. he is a proven tuner and I cant believe he's only charging $250 still.... thats just cheap.

OP has the tuner you are talking about ever tunes coyote motors? how many? It can make a big difference because with this copperhead ECU it can be a pain....


anyway /rant.
 
#17 ·
I'm not bashing anyone at all! They (AM/bama) supply a great product for the price. My issues were more customer service related. I wasn't happy with they way things were handled and felt like I was being blown off? Now with that being said I'm not sure my end if the deal was up to snuff either? I think I'm having some computer issues witch could have effected the out come of all this drastically? Yes bama has great base tunes that run good and for the price (free) (if you buy the tuner from them) it can't be beat. But I do remember read a thread were a rep from bama claimed they can tune just as good as anyone of there competitors? So I as a loyal customer held them to that. There tunes ARE safe but Im looking for more. I'm using there NOS tune currently witch works great!! I am going to step up to a 100 shot but doing so on a dyno tune ONLY


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#18 ·
It is funny people dont have time to data log and get things done right yet they have the time to bash people in online threads...:smirk
 
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^^THIS^^ From here on, I will lock/delete any thread bashing a forum vendor/sponsor without the op giving them a chance to make it right. Its called trolling. Please read the site rules.
 
#21 ·
I have my revise tune loaded on the car and it does pull harder than the original. The drivability isn't as good as the original but I'm ok with that. I think there's still more on the table? I have a buddy with the same basic car as I have with the same basic mods. We dyno'd our cars stock on the same day same dyno and made almost the exact same power output. Now the only difference is he is running an AED tune. His car would pull mine with mine on the original bama 93H tune. We are meeting up later to compare my revised tune. Then Saturday heading back to the dyno.


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#23 ·
Hey bro I am right outside cincy.. In NKY.. take to cincy speed.. the guys there been doing this for a long time.. They know tuning, and they know mustangs.. Its worth the cash.. On wensdays they dyno run for $35 if you have a conceal or carry... They will set ur car up the right way and safe way.. Cincy speed is badass car guys.
 
#24 ·
It's only bashing if it's unwarranted. If someone is having a problem with a service or company whether they are site sponsored or not, they need to make that public on AFM and share their experience. That's what forums are for. It's helped me avoid a lot of troublesome products and services and it's what keeps me coming back. If the new mods are going to start "bashing" members for "bashing" bad products/service, then it might be time to find a new forum. :nono:
 
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#26 ·
If the new mods are going to start "bashing" members for "bashing" bad products/service, then it might be time to find a new forum. :nono:
You won't see me doing this. Only thing I ask before any "bashing" occurs is that both sides get to tell their sides of the story. This is where problems can occur, pick up the phone first. If a sponsor is proven to be in the wrong members should know. But if they make right, they should know that also.
 
#25 ·
Same old song and dance I guess. My experience hasn't been so great lately with bama and there tunes! I'm switching THIS WEEK to another tuner! I DO NOT have time for all this! I want someone who is going to tune my car rite and do it rite the first time! Is this possible with an e mail tune? I've herd good things about AED/Shaun and have an e mail from him stating that he'll send me over the base map to log when I'm ready. But it's 250$. And a speed shop here locally will dyno tune me for 250$. Are Shaun's tunes really as good as everyone says? Or should I just get the dyno tune from cincy speed? My car is a 2013 5.0 mt-82 base with a CAI, cat deletes, and a ZEX blackout coyote kit currently set up on a 75shot
I'm not bashing anyone at all! They (AM/bama) supply a great product for the price. My issues were more customer service related. I wasn't happy with they way things were handled and felt like I was being blown off? Now with that being said I'm not sure my end if the deal was up to snuff either? I think I'm having some computer issues witch could have effected the out come of all this drastically? Yes bama has great base tunes that run good and for the price (free) (if you buy the tuner from them) it can't be beat. But I do remember read a thread were a rep from bama claimed they can tune just as good as anyone of there competitors? So I as a loyal customer held them to that. There tunes ARE safe but Im looking for more. I'm using there NOS tune currently witch works great!! I am going to step up to a 100 shot but doing so on a dyno tune ONLY

Hey ddinn25,

I'm really sorry about the on going issue your having with Bama. I'm going to look into our system and see what Bama representative you spoke with to make sure everyone understands the proper Customer Service procedures. This is not the type of feedback I'm used to hearing, but I really appreciate your feedback!

As you stated, we do make our Custom tunes very safe from the start. However, we do encourage Data logging after the first tune is loaded to the car! This will allow us to dial in your car perfectly. I still believe that our Custom tunes will perform just as good, if not better than our Competitors. With a few Datalogs and interactions back and forth between you and our head tuning specialist, you should be in good shape! Especially with a 2011+ GT. These cars have factory wide band sensors which allows us to get the tune dialed in as if it were on a dyno.

We send out thousands of tunes and build them all from the ground up for your PCM code and your mods. They're not just "canned" tunes, they're built custom by our team, so every once in a while it's possible we mess one up! We'll definitely get it straightened out for you, though! Please shoot me a PM with your order number and I'll make sure your contacted this afternoon so we can get you taken care of.

Please let me know if you have any further questions or need some assistance in the near future. We really appreciate your business and loyalty and would have to loose you as a customer! I'm only a PM if you ever need to chat or have a question..

-Dan
 
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I was hoping you would chime in AMDanBailer. Ill have to pm you the name of the individual I was working with. The other 2 I spoke to I don't recall there names. As you had stated I was in fact trying to communicate back and forth. I kept getting replies like sorry for the delay or I apologize for the miscommunication. The attention to detail just wasn't there. I had multiple issues ranging from my data logs supposedly going hay wire part way through, getting my device loaded (corrupt files), and check engine lights.
I'm positive my rear o2's were not turned off on the first tune revision. I was getting a cat system inefficient codes. I have off road exhaust. The first tune revision was sent to me Wednesday July 3rd. I email the guy that was helping me Friday July 5th and told him everything that was going on. I called first thing Monday morning to see what was up. My guy was busy. The guy I had spoke to said he talked to my guy and I should have my tune in about 30min. 8hrs later I still didn't have a tune so I called back. Again my guy was busy and I was told to be patient! No if you tell me ill have my tune in 30 min then I expect my tune in 30 min! If there is a problem with why I can't get my tune in 30 min then I want to know why! Not BE PATIENT! I understand you guys are busy and so am I. I'd be happy to forward you all the e mails between the bama tech and my self? After my last call in yesterday I received my tune and got it on the car with no issues. The car does feel stronger but some drivability was lost. The car is getting dyno'd Saturday and tomorrow I'm going to log the car again and send it in. I'm sure there's more on the table?
I'm not on here to bash anyone or to put anyone one person or company down! I'm clearly stating facts and of personal experience. I'm not swayed by someone's opinion. This information may help someone else's decision making? Hence the whole reasoning for forums??


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I was hoping you would chime in AMDanBailer. Ill have to pm you the name of the individual I was working with. The other 2 I spoke to I don't recall there names. As you had stated I was in fact trying to communicate back and forth. I kept getting replies like sorry for the delay or I apologize for the miscommunication. The attention to detail just wasn't there. I had multiple issues ranging from my data logs supposedly going hay wire part way through, getting my device loaded (corrupt files), and check engine lights.
I'm positive my rear o2's were not turned off on the first tune revision. I was getting a cat system inefficient codes. I have off road exhaust. The first tune revision was sent to me Wednesday July 3rd. I email the guy that was helping me Friday July 5th and told him everything that was going on. I called first thing Monday morning to see what was up. My guy was busy. The guy I had spoke to said he talked to my guy and I should have my tune in about 30min. 8hrs later I still didn't have a tune so I called back. Again my guy was busy and I was told to be patient! No if you tell me ill have my tune in 30 min then I expect my tune in 30 min! If there is a problem with why I can't get my tune in 30 min then I want to know why! Not BE PATIENT! I understand you guys are busy and so am I. I'd be happy to forward you all the e mails between the bama tech and my self? After my last call in yesterday I received my tune and got it on the car with no issues. The car does feel stronger but some drivability was lost. The car is getting dyno'd Saturday and tomorrow I'm going to log the car again and send it in. I'm sure there's more on the table?
I'm not on here to bash anyone or to put anyone one person or company down! I'm clearly stating facts and of personal experience. I'm not swayed by someone's opinion. This information may help someone else's decision making? Hence the whole reasoning for forums??
Hey,

I'm sorry to hear that your whole experience with the Bama team hasn't been up to par. Please shoot me a PM with your order number and the name of the Representatives you spoke to and I'll look into this further!

I'll also have our best tuning specialist contact you directly! I understand your most recent tune is in good shape but you lost a little drive ability. We can work with him and make sure you're tune is dialed in perfectly and squared away! Definitely take some logs while the car is on the dyno, this should help us get you dialed in as well...

We really do appreciate your patience while we get you squared away! I'll be keeping an eye on my PM's.

-Dan
 
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#30 ·
I'm still at a loss as to what the OP had a problem with anyway. Seems like he's complaining about his tune from Bama, apparently his car is now a "bomb". So did Bama blow up the car?

Also, am I the only person who thinks a mail-order tune is a bad idea for FI or spray applications?

...furthermore, why hasn't this been locked yet?
 
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#34 ·
Same old song and dance I guess. My experience hasn't been so great lately with bama and there tunes! I'm switching THIS WEEK to another tuner! I DO NOT have time for all this! I want someone who is going to tune my car rite and do it rite the first time! Is this possible with an e mail tune? I've herd good things about AED/Shaun and have an e mail from him stating that he'll send me over the base map to log when I'm ready. But it's 250$. And a speed shop here locally will dyno tune me for 250$. Are Shaun's tunes really as good as everyone says? Or should I just get the dyno tune from cincy speed? My car is a 2013 5.0 mt-82 base with a CAI, cat deletes, and a ZEX blackout coyote kit currently set up on a 75shot


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I guess I fail to see what the OP is complaining about specifically. All I see is lot's of vitriol followed by a rambling question (of sorts).
How could anyone address this issue if he can't even explain the problem?

IMHO I think getting a canned tune for nitrous is just dumb. Pay the piper and get it done right, don't cheap out and then blast a sponsor in some incomprehensible rant.
 
#36 ·
Incomprehensible rant? If you say so? I posted this for a reason and that reason was addressed. To no help from you obviously! As I stated before I posted strictly fact. If I see some that is of no interest to me or doesn't concern me I just keep scrolling instead of typing off useless information. This may help someone down the road as may posts in this forum have helped me! I got my CEL/miss fire issue resolved BECAUSE OF THIS FORUM. I was stating the issues I was having with the said vendor and there customer service. Obviously you missed that??
Anyways I was hoping a bama rep would chime in and they did so my work is done here and thanks to the ones with helpful information. For the ones that find it necessary to nit pick every post for grammar, punctuation, and all out feeling superior to everyone else I GOT NOTHING!


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#39 ·
Well there you go!.......I hope that everything is getting resolved David......I spoke to Dan Bailer (From American Muscle) on the phone, and he assured me that he Personally was going to make everything Right with you :bigthumbsup.............Sean
 
#40 ·
PM sent!
Last night I went to "return to stock" them re load the revised tune. The tuner failed when trying to load the revised tune. The car was DEAD! Would start. Fortunately is was able to return to then load an original tune that came on the device. I'm afraid to load the revised tunes for fear that it may cause damage to my motor or BRICK my ecu!! I thought I was done for last night!? The reason I did it in the first place is because I thought I herd "pinging" or detonation at the higher R's and under heavy load


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#41 ·
PM sent!
Last night I went to "return to stock" them re load the revised tune. The tuner failed when trying to load the revised tune. The car was DEAD! Would start. Fortunately is was able to return to then load an original tune that came on the device. I'm afraid to load the revised tunes for fear that it may cause damage to my motor or BRICK my ecu!! I thought I was done for last night!? The reason I did it in the first place is because I thought I herd "pinging" or detonation at the higher R's and under heavy load
I received your PM and have sent your information over to the Bama team. They'll be looking into your issue and our head tuning specialist will be reaching out to you personally!

To avoid any failures when transferring files, make sure your battery is fully charged, you have a good connection to the OB2 port and all of your firmware is updated on the device. If all of these things are in check, you shouldn't run into any issues!

Thanks again for your patience, we'll have you squared away very quickly!

-Dan
 
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