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So my car only has 1350 miles on it currently. I called the dealer to ask about the first oil change. I was wondering if I should go at a certain month as opposed to a certain mileage. He said the car will tell you when it needs it. It can be at 5k or 10k miles, the car knows...........This is a weird answer for me as I am used to changing oil every 3-5k miles or every 6-8 months if the mileage doesn't hit first. Any suggestions?

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So my car only has 1350 miles on it currently. I called the dealer to ask about the first oil change. I was wondering if I should go at a certain month as opposed to a certain mileage. He said the car will tell you when it needs it. It can be at 5k or 10k miles, the car knows...........This is a weird answer for me as I am used to changing oil every 3-5k miles or every 6-8 months if the mileage doesn't hit first. Any suggestions?
It really depends on how you drive it. If you baby it and don't track it then i would say go by the mileage. If you drive it like you stole it and track it then i would say either change it around 5k or 6 months whatever comes first. I drive it like i stole it basically and i change it every 10k like the book says. I have 65k on my car now.


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The engine holds 8 quarts of oil. There is no reason to run it on short oil change intervals. I've been changing my oil in the 7500-8000 mile range with oil samples at each change showing that the oil is still in good condition.
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Just buy a high quality synthetic and you can go 10k miles intervals. I use amsoil products and my engine loves it!

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Nothing wrong at all with 7-10K mile intervals but I would do the first one before 3K'
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I did my first oil change at about 4,700 miles and that was only because my car was a year old at that point and I didn't want to leave the oil in it for over a year. I will probably go by the OLM or one year if I don't put a lot of miles on it.

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6k year toy used but not tracked I do mine every 9 months = 4x in 3 years rather than the 3x that Ford reccomends. You'll see a variety of choices pick the one you are comfortable with.

Old school and also suggest the 1st one early........

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I do mine by the oil life meter which works out to be 7-8,000 miles with my driving.
Did the first oil change around 72xx.
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I take a bit of a different perspective on this...and with Engine Break-in
While much of the engine components are seated, there are some (such as piston rings) that can take up to 1,000 miles to fully seat. Here's what I do with every new OEM vehicle...for the 1st 1,000 miles

1. I lock out overdrive and drive normally (city & hwy)- this keeps the rpm's constantly varied...do not beat on the engine
2. At 500 miles, I change the oil & filter to remove any mfg contaminents that may exist.
3. At 800-1,000 miles.....we go for a long trip....something in the 2-4 hour driving range, running 70-80 mph with the overdrive off.
4. Upon my return, I change oil & filter.
I guarantee you engine will have a much different, smoother "feel" to it. Max mpg's though are typically seen at around 10k miles.

Some items that I will just refer to as "of interest" to me.....

1. The timing chain tensioners are hydraulically operated, cleanliness of the oil is imperative to keep the actuators functioning.

2. Most of the oil filter mfgs conceed, that after about 90 days of use, the bypass valve in the filter opens to some degree. While the stored/caught particulates do not escape, the oil is allowed to flow straight through to prevent starvation. I change filters every 3 months in my daily drivers....going back to the 90's.

3. With the extended oil changes 5,000 up to 10,000 miles, with the reduced ZDDP and the longer exposure to periodic oil filter bypass activation, this is another parallel to the hydraulic timing chain actuators failing at around 100k miles as compared to their design specs which say they should be good for 150K+ miles. Thos who have experienced these specific failures, the majority report they are on extended oil drain frequencies- most of the Ford Master Techs i have spoken diretly too regarding this, agree their gut instint says there is a relationship between the two.

4. I too do extended coolant & oil changes on my vehicles. I use cathodic protection installed in each of the vehicle coolant reserve containers, the ph and ehtylene glycol levels of the water is checked annually and the fluid is removed, filtered (3 ppm), the system is flushed and then refilled with the same fluid every 5 years. The oil on my 65 300 hp mustang (which has been inthe family since new), has only seen 3 oil changes since its ground up rebuild (and of course after the engine break-in period) since the mid 1980's......but I do change the oem filter annually and i run a bypass filter (filters down to 5 ppm) and on the last oil change (which was recent) I did add one bottle of ZDDP per after discussing this indetail with Ron Eskenderian (yes, Isky Racing Cams), and I add 1/3 of a bottle to my mod motors as well (1997 Cougar Sport 4.6 & 2006 Lincoln Mark LT 5.4)- IIRR it is a 9 oz bottle.

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I say keep the oil in there and change it around 5k miles and that is still considered early. I changed mine at around 2500 miles and got a random ticking noise. It went away. But if they have that rumored oil additive in the initial oil fill from the factory it would beneficial to run that oil as long as possible.

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I go by the meter. First change at 8K. I autocross 6 times a year...I use fresh Z-MAX at every change because Carrol Shelby said he uses it in all his cars!

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I go by the meter. First change at 8K. I autocross 6 times a year...I use fresh Z-MAX at every change because Carrol Shelby said he uses it in all his cars!
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I change my oil every 5K with Motorcraft 5w20 and Motorcraft FL-500S filter. Currently 24,000 on the odometer.

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First change was less than 3k miles, normal changes around 7500 with RP 5w-30.


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