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There are so many CAI's out there and people keep buying them. I wish someone would do a correct video showing a stock 5.0 mustang on the dyno with the results. Now put a tune on the stock Mustang with the stock air box. And show us the results. And finally put the aftermarket CAI on run it on the dyno and show us the difference. NOBODY WILL DO THIS!!!!! The manufactures will not show us that you are wasting your hard earned money on a CAI.
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I have felt the same way reading all these magazine articles and dyno test (very biased to their advertisers anyway).



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There are so many CAI's out there and people keep buying them. I wish someone would do a correct video showing a stock 5.0 mustang on the dyno with the results. Now put a tune on the stock Mustang with the stock air box. And show us the results. And finally put the aftermarket CAI on run it on the dyno and show us the difference. NOBODY WILL DO THIS!!!!! The manufactures will not show us that you are wasting your hard earned money on a CAI.
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If you buy these mods expecting to get the full performance improvement that they talk about in the ads, and you actually check to see if you got it, in most cases you will be disappointed.

But still, depending on how you look at it, they are not a "waste of money" . . . . this whole hobby is just for fun; how many of us actually race our cars and are counting on that 0.1 second improvement, really? Buy this stuff because:
  • they are cool toys
  • its a fun little project to install them and then see the coolness of your work
  • they look neat under the hood
  • they give you something to talk and/or brag about (depending on how you roll)
  • it makes your car unique
  • you can tell yourself that your car is faster now, or gets better mileage, or whatever . . . no need to concern yourself with whether that is true of not
  • chicks dig guys who can do stuff with their hands
  • etc. etc. etc.
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What JBert said!!

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Mud sez "buy one used for sound and looks and you'll be happy"

any butt dyno improvement is icing on the cake.

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Mud sez "buy one used for sound and looks and you'll be happy"

any butt dyno improvement is icing on the cake.
i know it sounds crazy but i am only gonna by one for looks and sound. i am looking for the loudest one.

had a friend with an 02 with a C&L TB and a CAI and it sounded so good.
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for me what I posted is what I did.

I scored an Airaid used for my V6 and in a complicated deal (also bought tuner which I sold along with my OEM intake/used V8 sound tube which I never put on) it cost about $80.

Helpful hint: I don't know if it translates to the V8 but when working on it place a rag in the snorkle (lower part) to catch dropped tools/screws before they disappear.

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If you buy these mods expecting to get the full performance improvement that they talk about in the ads, and you actually check to see if you got it, in most cases you will be disappointed.

But still, depending on how you look at it, they are not a "waste of money" . . . . this whole hobby is just for fun; how many of us actually race our cars and are counting on that 0.1 second improvement, really? Buy this stuff because:
  • they are cool toys
  • its a fun little project to install them and then see the coolness of your work
  • they look neat under the hood
  • they give you something to talk and/or brag about (depending on how you roll)
  • it makes your car unique
  • you can tell yourself that your car is faster now, or gets better mileage, or whatever . . . no need to concern yourself with whether that is true of not
  • chicks dig guys who can do stuff with their hands
  • etc. etc. etc.
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Hey guys, I'm new here, I apologize in advance if this thread is out of place.

But I wanted to get some input and thoughts on cold air intakes; are they worth it? are there any cons to having one (damage to engine, etc.)? any brand recommendations (knn, etc.)?

Thanks!
Here are my thoughts on Intakes.

Pros:
1. They look cool and they sound cool
2. This is something you will easily be able to install yourself.
3. They are worth owning if you are having a support cast of add on's that will require you to free up as much air restriction as possible.
4. They are worth it if you plan on running boost/FI.
5. Most cases result in a slight boost in MPG's

Cons:
1. If you are expecting a noticeable gain on its own then you will be disappointed.
2. Those CAI/Tuner combos you see, the majority of those gains are the tune. You can buy the tune on its own.
3. The power per dollar is not good at all on its own.

All in all if you want this for looks, sound and the ability to say you do you own work then sure. People have spent more money to say this lol. If you are going to have a supporting cast of parts that will make better use then I would also say yes. If none of these apply then I would say no and save your money for another mod. I hope this helps.
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First this thread really captures the true pros and cons accurately! It's all about looks and not performance, that should be your guide.

Second dyno'd my 11 two years ago, no tune with stock vs jlt vs airaid with a buddy of mine, bottom line no difference! Given this conundrum resurfaces over and over I WISH I would have kept the Dyno sheets to post!!!!

The mfg ads are bs and is a marketing combo/tuner gimmick, truth told!!!

Put your $$$ in a tune/tuner you'll be glad without question you did!!

I've run FRPP and Bama like them both for different reasons!

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First this thread really captures the true pros and cons accurately! It's all about looks and not performance, that should be your guide.

Second dyno'd my 11 two years ago, no tune with stock vs jlt vs airaid with a buddy of mine, bottom line no difference! Given this conundrum resurfaces over and over I WISH I would have kept the Dyno sheets to post!!!!

The mfg ads are bs and is a marketing combo/tuner gimmick, truth told!!!

Put your $$$ in a tune/tuner you'll be glad without question you did!!

I've run FRPP and Bama like them both for different reasons!
come on and spill the beans. tell me more about the tunes. i am thinking about getting the ford tune
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CAI doesn't help much unless you have a larger exhaust to move all that air out, on the other hand cooler air entering the intake helps your car burn fuel more efficiently, my guess is any mustang owner will take 1-2 more mpg, that makes it worth it.
There is a lot of truth in this. The engine is actually an air pump. Volume in and volume out. CAI's and throttle body spacers are all just hype if you don't follow through with things on the back end. I'm a noob to the Mustang, but I know these things from previous vehicles and mods. In all truth, the exit flow should come first, then the inflow. Not sure why I was even looking at 73mm throttle bodies yesterday....but it's always fun to look right?
Cooler air in is good, it's the density actually and a higher flowing filter than stock is just building upon the OEM engineering. Don't get me wrong, but the high dollar kits are like fish bait and guarantees of 5-10hp is simply BS just for installing it. I won't knock K&N for their products. I still use their oil filters exclusively on one of my vehicles running all synthetic motor oil. Any air filter that you have to oil and clean occasionally is just not much better than a dry filter with more surface area like an Amsoil filter.
Marketing is marketing. Everyone is just jumping at the chance to take your hard earned money (take the government for example), and they will do almost anything to make you believe that you need their product to make everything better. That can turn into a tailspin for those who are not willing to wait for the best advice. The working man has to be careful with his credit cards. The government wishes you would use them to no end so you can end up depending on them soon.
Technology is also screwing us in ways, just when we think that high tech stuff is making things easier for us, it's actually stabbing us in the back and we let it.
Okay, before I get a full page ad going here........ Spend your money however you see fit. You start in the wrong place, it will just keep on building. That's what the market depends on.......and the market doesn't exactly make America these days. Remember....our government is printing money like it was going out of style. Money that's actually costing more to make than what it's worth.
My bad....rant over. I just saw an opportunity and ran with it. My apologies if I got off subject or offended anyone.

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Previous years and generations of Mustangs had non effecient air boxes, my 2006 V6 for example. So Ford addressed it in the later model S197s. Do the CAI manufacturers just say, "Dammit, we'll just close our doors."? No, they will still try to sell their products.

Remember data is like bikinis, if you pick the right ones, you can make anything look good.
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Previous years and generations of Mustangs had non effecient air boxes, my 2006 V6 for example. So Ford addressed it in the later model S197s. Do the CAI manufacturers just say, "Dammit, we'll just close our doors."? No, they will still try to sell their products.

Remember data is like bikinis, if you pick the right ones, you can make anything look good.
But then again looks aint everything right?
Some of the wildest ones don't look real good on the streets.......they look better in the sheets. LOL!
Not putting words in your mouth, but I take it that's what you were sayin'

I hope that I haven't stepped on anyone's toes here with what I've said even though it's true to the best of my knowledge. I got sucked up into the basic boost mods years ago with promises of RWHP gains. I know a lot more now than what I did then. Boy do I have stories to tell!

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For my 12 I got the Airaid intake tube. Pretty cheap, cleans up the intake assembly, doesn't really add much more noise but there is a slight difference. Put an Accufab TB, the intake tube, and axle backs on before I got a tune. Gave that info to Steeda and when I uploaded the tune today, night and day HUGE world of difference. It's all in the tune. Thanks Steeda

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