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Roush Supercharger install.

I plan on having a phase 1 kit installed next month. I was wondering who I should get to do the install? I've read some of the older posts on the topic but was looking for a more current price with install and Roush warranty. I have also contemplated the Brenspeed 626R kit. The kit will be going on a 2013 5.0. Advice welcomed. Thanks.


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You're eventually going to want the extra power, so I say go for the 626R. Their tune is much better than the stock Roush.


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I have the Ford racing kit on a 2013 and haven't had any issues. From what I understand the roush is a great kit also when I got the dealership to install mine the mechanic said there's a little more grinding of the ribs with the roush but overall they are pretty close to one another as far as install.
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Possibly. I am weighing the cost difference, the warranty, and the drive-ability as a daily driver. As far as I know I can get the Roush Phase 1 kit installed with warranty (about 7 months remaining) for $7466.49 out the door or pay $7889.59 out the door for the 626R. So the $ difference isn't too much ($400ish) but we're talking about a lot of total money. Both prices are from Brenspeed. I don't know if they give a forum discount or not, those prices are just via email to a sales guy. It's a large amount of money to me and I want to make sure I do every bit of research and ask all the questions that I can before I pull the trigger.

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I don't think you can go wrong with the roush kit but tommy is right your going to get it put on and live it then you'll want a little more power. I put the 525 on for a year to keep my warranty and wish I'd have gone with the 624 first lol.

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I'm leaning 626R, and from what I've read it's a very safe tune from Brenspeed but I don't know of anyone running it. All my information is from Brenspeed. I appreciate the advice.

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One looks at HP numbers, sees a figure and thinks it will be enough.
But it never is. Get as much as you can afford, or the limit of what you think your engine can take, whichever comes first.

I checked your profile, it looks like you have the suspension in place.

OK, you're going to do the SC thing, and so it begins again... more mods.
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So if a dealer installs the SC kit, the factory warranty isn't voided even though the car will be tuned by Brenspeed? What's the install price of that, like a grand?

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Warranty for 36 months / 36k miles from my (In Service) date, the day I purchased my car new. That warranty is offered from Roush for the Phase 1 kit. If I go the 626R route, no warranty at all.

So here are my options:
Phase 1 - 8 months of warranty, less hp, less $
626R - No warranty, more hp, more $

I am still waiting to hear from anyone running the 626R setup. Brenspeed says it's safe, dyno tuned with no issues. This maybe true but I want to hear it from a driver not just the sales pitch.

Yes the factory warranty is out the window as with anything like this. If my car had the 5/60 power train warranty I would probably wait, but being its a Roush mustang it only has a 3/36 regardless of Stage.

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I'm confused...can you not put on the stage 1 kit and swap the pulley out later on, say, after the warranty is up?
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You should be able to but from what I read before I installed mine it's a pulley and a tune which brings it to 625. Chances are your gonna want the one that offers the most power whether you go phase one first or not so its up to whether you want a warranty or not. I'd also check on the warranty because it's usually on parts installed if you blow the motor because you drive like a crazy person I doubt warranty covers anything.

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Warranty for 36 months / 36k miles from my (In Service) date, the day I purchased my car new. That warranty is offered from Roush for the Phase 1 kit. If I go the 626R route, no warranty at all.
Your motor has a 5 year 60,000 mile warranty from Ford. I don't think any of the power added companies will meet the Ford 5/60 warranty so either way you are throwing away your warranty. (Based on Ford determining that your Supercharger was the cause of the failure.)

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I could install the Phase 1 kit then go back for the 626R. But that's another long trip and even more $. I could do the 626R upgrade with a canned tune from Brenspeed but I would prefer the dyno tune.

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My warranty is 3/36. That is the warranty on all Roush Mustangs regardless of stage (RS, RS1, RS2,&RS3). I figured it would have the standard Ford warranty too but I was wrong.
Roush does offer a power train warranty for up to 3/36 from in service date if the phase 1 kit is instlled by an authorized shop. My car will hit the 3 yr mark in April I think. Of course this warranty cost an additional $400 or so. I have already figured that into my price.
I was hoping someone on this forum was running the 626R package to give some input. I've read several folks running the 650R kit, but none for the 626R.

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My warranty is 3/36. That is the warranty on all Roush Mustangs regardless of stage (RS, RS1, RS2,&RS3). I figured it would have the standard Ford warranty too but I was wrong.
Roush does offer a power train warranty for up to 3/36 from in service date if the phase 1 kit is instlled by an authorized shop. My car will hit the 3 yr mark in April I think. Of course this warranty cost an additional $400 or so. I have already figured that into my price.
I was hoping someone on this forum was running the 626R package to give some input. I've read several folks running the 650R kit, but none for the 626R.
Does Roush put some sort of tune in all of their cars? Stage 1 is only cosmetic and Stage 2 (Roush cars, not supercharger phases) is suspension based from what I recall, that shouldn't have any effect on your 5/60 powertrain warranty from Ford. If your motor fails, it's on Ford to prove the failure is due to a cosmetic/suspension related mod from Roush. You never just completely "lose" a warranty, unless it expires obviously.

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