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View Poll Results: Is a front strut brace worth the money?
Yes if <$100 7 35.00%
Yes if <$150 6 30.00%
No, save your money and buy a GT350R in 5 years 7 35.00%
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my 2012 PP came with one yep it looks cool. For fun I would like to see blind testing done to see if anyone other than a pro notices anything.

Mud's a fan of research and likes to read studies done with Placebo's and know they do work.


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my 2012 PP came with one yep it looks cool. For fun I would like to see blind testing done to see if anyone other than a pro notices anything.

Mud's a fan of research and likes to read studies done with Placebo's and know they do work.
When I I was researching the topic with my prior car, I found a video where the strut bar company put a camera under the hood and viewed the play in the struts, then did it again with their strut bar. Not sure how accurate the transfer to lateral G was, as it wasn't measured, but it was cool to see. Either way, if anyone has a go-pro, an accelerometer, and some free time, it'd be a cool study.


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My 2011 GT and 2014 both handled better an rode better without the brace. It's good for looks and that's about it.

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My 2011 GT and 2014 both handled better an rode better without the brace. It's good for looks and that's about it.

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I made a couple of trips between Mobile and New Orleans with the brace off of my 2014, didn't notice any difference except for better ride quality. On the track it probably makes a difference but I can't feel it on the street.

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My 2011 GT and 2014 both handled better an rode better without the brace. It's good for looks and that's about it.
I think that it's individual and subjective regarding as to what feels/handles better. My 2014 GT handles and feels better to me with the brace installed. I have two 2014's, and I can do instant comparisons by driving one with the brace, and one without immediately thereafter.

FOR ME... handling FEELS more precise and predictable with the brace installed.

I've learned not to make any absolute claims about this (others will be quick to point out how they think I'm an idiot for feeling the brace is an enhancement).

I like the feel/handling with the brace better than without.


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Mud's a fan of research and likes to read studies done with Placebo's and know they do work.
I am a big believer in the placebo affect, and that's why I have a strut tower brace on my car.
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I like the feel/handling with the brace better than without.
I'm not surprised (edited to put the emphasis where it was intended).

For what it's worth, I do think that the advantages of most STBs are subjective and have posted as much. Handling is in part subjective. Your observations are on point here, and I was agreeing with them.


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Just thought I would throw my pennies at the wall here. My brother and I got matching GT's his auto, mine stick. I had installed the front and rear strut tower supports as well as Steeda UCA and LCA on the stick car. We are both aggressive drivers and I was able to pull 3-4 cars on him through the clover leaves we have to get onto/off the highways. Placebo effect ? Or could it be the fact the car rolls less with a stiffer chassis and is much more controllable. If the chassis is stiffer, the contact patch on the tires would stay planted more, in turn resulting in more rubber on the ground which ='s traction ... Have at it
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Just thought I would throw my pennies at the wall here. My brother and I got matching GT's his auto, mine stick. I had installed the front and rear strut tower supports as well as Steeda UCA and LCA on the stick car. We are both aggressive drivers and I was able to pull 3-4 cars on him through the clover leaves we have to get onto/off the highways. Placebo effect ? Or could it be the fact the car rolls less with a stiffer chassis and is much more controllable. If the chassis is stiffer, the contact patch on the tires would stay planted more, in turn resulting in more rubber on the ground which ='s traction ... Have at it
Better tires help more than a tower brace.
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I am a big believer in the placebo affect, and that's why I have a strut tower brace on my car.
Me too. That's how bolt-on manufactures stay in business. They're "cheap" enough to keep the hobby and dream alive but that's about all they do.

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Better tires help more than a tower brace.
Better tires help more than just about every other handling mod, it's where the rubber meets the road... As far as strut braces go they're really not needed on the race to work and back and they probably wouldn't help at an auto x event. They do the least for handling when being compared to every other suspension components . So the stock struts are "tied" together, big whoop. The chassis isn't any stiffer and the struts are the same ole struts.


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Just thought I would throw my pennies at the wall here. My brother and I got matching GT's his auto, mine stick. I had installed the front and rear strut tower supports as well as Steeda UCA and LCA on the stick car. We are both aggressive drivers and I was able to pull 3-4 cars on him through the clover leaves we have to get onto/off the highways. Placebo effect ? Or could it be the fact the car rolls less with a stiffer chassis and is much more controllable. If the chassis is stiffer, the contact patch on the tires would stay planted more, in turn resulting in more rubber on the ground which ='s traction ... Have at it

T'was the better bushings in the control arms no placebo there. It also could've been that you were in the appropriate gear while his auto was searching for the right one. All the strut braces did were add weight. To make the chassis stiffer you have stiffen up the chassis on the under side, not tie the struts together up top. Now that I think about it, all that's being "tied" together is the strut towers. Do y'all really think that the sheet metal that the towers are made of are so flimsy that they flex when cornering?

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]I just put a stock one on my 94 and haven't driven it yet but the cool factor means a lot... ,sorta like the 150 MPH speedometer.hehe rusty crank
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Better tires help more than just about every other handling mod, it's where the rubber meets the road... As far as strut braces go they're really not needed on the race to work and back and they probably wouldn't help at an auto x event. They do the least for handling when being compared to every other suspension components . So the stock struts are "tied" together, big whoop. The chassis isn't any stiffer and the struts are the same ole struts.
There is a very slight cornering gain to be had by tying the towers together. They will at least deflect the same amount, less than what the outside tower would do by itself but more than what the inside tower would. This benefits the more heavily loaded outside tire more than it will hurt the lighter-loaded inside tire. It's one of several compliance-camber things, and for strut tower deflections it's pretty small. There might actually be more actual improvement under extreme braking where the tower tops are moving in opposite directions, compared to the same-direction movements they have during cornering.


A strut tower brace really isn't a suspension component but a chassis component that has the potential to affect dynamic behavior (and certainly the NVH that basically tries to hide what's going on down at the contact patches).




I have edited post #53 to clear up a likely misunderstanding.



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