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I bit of a newbie here so please bare with me. I have a 2012 GT premium, bone stock. I just bought the car earlier in the week. Only has 13k miles on it.

I'm reading up on power mods, intake/exhaust and a tune. It seems like for the exhaust, all the power is in the headers, which I'm not planning on replacing, so even a catback isn't a good bang for the buck. I think I've decided on the flowmaster outlaws axleback. I'm not sure how much an x-pipe or h-pipe will help with power or is it more for just sound?

On the intake, I've been reading reviews saying a CAI isn't really worth the cost as the stock intake is really well designed. What about a CAI with a Bama 91 race tune? Is it worth the money over just the Bama 91 race tune by itself?

What I'm considering at this point is:
Bama 91 race tune (it's hard to find 93 octane around here)
Flowmaster outlaw axleback (just for sound)

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CAI
Boss 302 intake

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Exhaust is largely just going to be louder. Most CAIs are really hot air intakes and don't help, although I think there is one AM CAI that actually helps a bit. The OEM intake is a CAI, and works very well.

I would suggest that you think about what sort of vehicle you want, what want it to do well, before doing anything. For instance; I want my car to be both to drive, but to retain it's Grand Touring capabilities. I want it to drive like what I imagine an Aston Martin drives like. So I'm focused on NVH, suspension and brakes, it's got enough straight-line performance with nothing but a tune.

So take some time to figure out what you want your car to be, what you want to do with it, and then go from there.


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This will be a daily driver for me. I'd like to add usable low to midrange power of possible. That's why I'm considering the Bama 91 race tune. The flowmaster outlaws will just be for sound.

What I definitely would like to do in near future is the MGW race spec shifter, I'd like to lower the car as well and do some mods to reduce wheel hop.
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I have a sct tuner with 91 tune along with a bbk intake
makes a world of a difference
you can really feel the change in performance
scarry fast
cai looks nice too
bought the tuner and intake used for 400 cnd
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This will be a daily driver for me. I'd like to add usable low to midrange power of possible. That's why I'm considering the Bama 91 race tune. The flowmaster outlaws will just be for sound.

What I definitely would like to do in near future is the MGW race spec shifter, I'd like to lower the car as well and do some mods to reduce wheel hop.
While mine is not a daily driver, I had the same goals in mind and went the same route that you are thinking about. I drive the car aggressively and I am extremely happy with my setup. Actually taking the car to a track (1.7 mile road course) for the first time this spring so I'll really get to see how it handles. Take a look at the mods in my sig to get an idea of what I did. I would highly recommend better/wider tires also.

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While mine is not a daily driver, I had the same goals in mind and went the same route that you are thinking about. I drive the car aggressively and I am extremely happy with my setup. Actually taking the car to a track (1.7 mile road course) for the first time this spring so I'll really get to see how it handles. Take a look at the mods in my sig to get an idea of what I did. I would highly recommend better/wider tires also.

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Thank Rob.

Are you talking about a staggered tire setup?
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Long tubes can make some power but if you want to skip that, mid pipe with cat deletes will make power. Axle back is more for tone vs power like mentioned. Cai and tune will net power too, mostly from tune, but if you want to keep squeezing all you can, get a cai. For the hot box, yes it will suck in hot air and while sitting your iat's will increase but once moving they will drop to ambient to around 10 degrees above. For tuners.. Lund or AED.
If you want the boss im, you'll need a good tuner. And eventually long tubes so it'll exhale better. Also if you have e85 near you, get Lunds or AED's flex fuel tune.
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It has been said many times here before but I will repeat it: All the power in the world is not worth a darn without proper traction - start with improvements there first unless it is your goal to sit and spin the tires or drift when you did not want to: LCR, adjustable Shocks and good tires are start - I wish someone had told me this when I started!!
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Are you talking about a staggered tire setup?

Not necessarily staggered but certainly wider. The goal is to get a larger area of tire in contact with the road surface for better grip. I prefer the staggered tire look but the downside is the inability to rotate your tires. Since mine is a weekend toy it is not a big deal for me.

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Skip the boss intake. 6000rpm power is not worth the low end and midrange losses IMO.
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Unless you are planning the install yourself (7-10 hours) for headers the value proposition is pretty poor compared to offroad h or x pipe. Midpipe is like 1/4 the cost for 90% percent of the gains. Do not let people tell you they buy headers for sound...lol. Car comes factory with tuned, tubular, tri y designed, and 409 stainless headers from factory. Your midpipe back affects the sound.

VMP tuned and offroad X only on a full weight GT/CS auto I was running 12.3's on stock 245's @ 1500 feet elevation. Leaving off idle...
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Long tubes can make some power but if you want to skip that, mid pipe with cat deletes will make power. Axle back is more for tone vs power like mentioned. Cai and tune will net power too, mostly from tune, but if you want to keep squeezing all you can, get a cai. For the hot box, yes it will suck in hot air and while sitting your iat's will increase but once moving they will drop to ambient to around 10 degrees above. For tuners.. Lund or AED.
If you want the boss im, you'll need a good tuner. And eventually long tubes so it'll exhale better. Also if you have e85 near you, get Lunds or AED's flex fuel tune.
Lund or AED over Bama?
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It has been said many times here before but I will repeat it: All the power in the world is not worth a darn without proper traction - start with improvements there first unless it is your goal to sit and spin the tires or drift when you did not want to: LCR, adjustable Shocks and good tires are start - I wish someone had told me this when I started!!
I definitely plan on doing this.
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Lund or AED definitely over bama. I have Lund though and I'm happy.
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Skip the boss intake. 6000rpm power is not worth the low end and midrange losses IMO.

The low end loss is very minimal with the right tuner/tune. Definitely no mid range loss. Honestly, I couldn't tell any difference at all of any loss. Just that at 5k-8k rpms it screams.

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