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Ford racing part #M-FR1-MGTB

Thinking of installing a Ford racing part # M-FR1-MGTB,
which includes Procal tune and GT 500 mufflers. Any thoughts on the pros or cons.


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Mufflers will sound nice. Air filter is nice. Pro Cal tune might be limited but if you can worry less about your warranty I believe compared to going other routes for a tuner and tuning.


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Thanks for the reply, I am interested in the warranty aspect. For the future what brand or brands of tunes have a good history of reliability or are trustworthy?
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Any non-Ford tune will void your warranty, technically, no matter who you get it from or how reliable it is.

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That is true, in theory. However, assuming you keep your mods mild, like a CAI and a tune, if you need to bring it to the dealer, you can just replace the stock airbox and re-tune. I was able to swap the CAI back to stock and re-tune in less than 15 minutes, though my S197 was already out of warranty by the time I bought it.

Also, some dealers are mod friendly, and won't make a big deal over things like CAI and tune.

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Thanks for the reply, I am interested in the warranty aspect. For the future what brand or brands of tunes have a good history of reliability or are trustworthy?

How much more warranty do you have? Also I am currently asking and debating on the same thing of what tuner too use and am actually ordering tonight... I think... I am debating on selling my 06 GT or keeping it is my hold up other wise I would have ordered earlier.

Bama through AM is who I am ordering from if I do it. Bama, Brenspeed, and Steeda are your big three Mustang tuners.

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Any non-Ford tune will void your warranty, technically, no matter who you get it from or how reliable it is.
Even some Ford tunes are questionable and really depends on dealer...

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That is true, in theory. However, assuming you keep your mods mild, like a CAI and a tune, if you need to bring it to the dealer, you can just replace the stock airbox and re-tune. I was able to swap the CAI back to stock and re-tune in less than 15 minutes, though my S197 was already out of warranty by the time I bought it.

Also, some dealers are mod friendly, and won't make a big deal over things like CAI and tune.

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That is actually questionable as they can tell if a car computer has been tuned as it will show it has been flashed. Many threads on this myth. If you tune your car warranty is 99.9% out.

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Just because you install a tune in your car it does not automatically kill your warranty. Ford has to prove that the aftermarket part was the cause of failure. Now if you do install a tune and something goes wrong with the engine then yes you probably won't be able to use the warranty for repairs. It depends on the part. You still have a lot of other parts on the car that are still covered by the warranty.

AED and Lund are also good tuners from what I have researched on this forum.

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The Procal tune will do nothing for the shifting in your 6R80 automatic.

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Lund and AED are your top best tuners.

If they want to say the tune is what broke your alternator, guess what....no warranty on the alternator. That crap law thing...its just that...crap. Had a fiend with a 2002 mustang gt. Tranny was messing up so he took it to the dealer. They said that the X pipe is what messed it up. Talk about bs. So they denied warranty. Took it to another dealership and replaced tranny with no questions. So there are mod friendly dealers and some that will deny no matter what if modified.

Procal is ok but I heard it lessens the warrant. I would check. It will make your stang respond better but nothing like a tune from Lund or AED.
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That exact setup gave me an 11 sec 1/4 at 115 on my loaded 2012 MT82 car. I'd say it worked.
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Then you are one of the lucky ones with a very nice motor, tranny, and rear end straight from the factory.

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Hmmmm?

Maybe you won't think so when you hear the rest of the story:

The '12 car was bought new and the factory tune was a torqueless mess. I tuned the car, thus and was happy. Then the MT82 imploded with any provocation whatsoever and I fought Ford for a month to get it rebuilt. It was fine after that, if a bit rattlier than before. The rear was good, other than the ubiquitous 3.73 whine.

The car held up fine subsequent to all of this as I banged gears on slicks at the track for two years with it.

I then got greedy, supercharged it, wrapped it around a tree and rolled it. Fortunately, I self-extricated and got only a couple busted ribs out of the deal..plus a newfound respect for what 600 horse can do.

Now I have the '14. It's an auto, which I am liking a lot. Procal didn't go on this one bc FRPP wanted $250 for an SD card to tune this one. No thanks. I bought an X4 from VMP and I've subsequently put a 100 shot of N20 on there, with a BBR tune, for when I go back to the track.

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I have that package and I like it a lot. The GT500 mufflers sound great, especially after a few months of driving. They are reasonably quiet, until you jump on the gas. They have a really nice growl without being stupid loud.

The ProCal tune is a huge improvement over the stock tune. It adds a very noticeable bump to the low end torque and the throttle response is greatly improved.

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I can see it working but nothing like what an actual tuner can do for you. The procal will still be in a real safe area for warranty aspects. Plus it's a one for all. Just like buying an xcal3/4 with canned tunes. You might feel a difference but it won't be the best.

I've seen a few guys that were 100% stock but ran a 12.2 on on a sticky tire.
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Any non-Ford tune will void your warranty, technically, no matter who you get it from or how reliable it is.
I work for a Ford dealer and when I called FRPP the way they explained it to me was even the procal is not covered under the "factory" warranty. Ford Racing covers it from the original sell date for 3yr or 36k. But it is not technically a "genuine Ford" product as it was explained to me. So basically saying that if somehow the procal caused a problem for your motor it wouldn't be covered by Ford either (if that makes sense). So when I found that out it kinda of defeated the purpose of getting a procal. I am leaning towards Lund as of right now. I have a factory extended warranty and the procal isn't covered under that, so I might as well go for a more aggressive tune.


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