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It seems to be a bit hazardous to have two big access ports to the gas tank inside the car.
They aren't actually in the car. The access covers are under the car. There is just a removable boot under the rear seat. This is quite common as well.

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They aren't actually in the car. The access covers are under the car. There is just a removable boot under the rear seat. This is quite common as well.
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Thanks. That explains things better.


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Holy ****, Rip Van Winkle, where ya been for the last 40+ years?
I have always had older used "practical" cars and acted rather out of character when I bought a new 2016 Mustang GT. This car is quite a bit different than any car that I have had previously (to put it mildly).

It has, for example, "coil on plug ignition". I looked that up to see what it was and found that the car has no spark plug wires. Wow! Then I read that "this has been common since the 1990's." Wow!

I really need a Haynes or Chiltons service manual for this car, but no one seems to have published one yet .

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You want to talk safety in this car? I walked out, yes, walked out of this rollover with two cracked ribs.
Whew! You right door really hit something hard. I am glad that you were not seriously injured.

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The tank in this car is ABS plastic and placed in the strongest part of the floor pan, with the axle on one side and trans and engine on the other and steel panels around it. It's as well fortified as any part on the car. Those access ports are just that, access to the sealed and lock ringed parts beneath them, If gas was to try to get inside that way, the entire passenger tub would have to be crushed like a beer can.

That all sounds good. I need to read more about the "ABS plastic" gas tanks, though. When did the industry switch from steel gas tanks to plastic? Plastic would be better than steel in regards to corrosion. I need to look up the melting temperature of ABS plastic.

That was an issue which caused this recall: "The second recall is for the 2015 Ford Mustang with a 2.3 liter engine. If the underbody is too hot for too long, the fuel tank and vapor lines can degrade which could result in a fuel leak and cause a fire." See: Ford recalls 442,500 vehicles for fuel tank, steering problems


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Well, with any mass produced object, there can be problems...witness GM's attempt to deflect blame for actual deaths due to their ignition switch issues over the last couple years. This is especially true of new cars and why I won't buy an introductory year. Even Ferrari encounters problems.

No one has been killed by burning Ecoboosts, I don't think. Manufacturers need to stay ahead of potential problems and the experience of big-scope recalls these days (which would have been ignored by manufacturers in the past, until death) show manufacturers that it's cheaper to deal with the issue than lose market share. Plastic tanks are not universal in automotive and motorcycle use but they are common. Stronger penetration resistance, lighter, rust free for life.

The biggest issue with the 11-14 has been that it is caught up in the Takata airbag recall and supply of the replacement bags is delayed.

The S197 passes all crash tests with flying colours. The new S550 is even better.

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Plastic tanks are not universal in automotive and motorcycle use but they are common. Stronger penetration resistance, lighter, rust free for life.
Interesting. I found a site that says: "an average plastic tank weighs two-thirds less than an average steel tank." It also says that plastic gas tanks can be molded into any shape, are less expensive to produce, and corrosion free. See: Light-Weight Fuel Tanks | European Plastic Automotive Fuel Systems

One thing I do not buy is: "When a plastic fuel tank is exposed to fire, it is more likely to melt or decompose and allow the contents to flow out and add fuel to the fire. That reduces the risk of explosion and enhances the safety of the car."

A steel gas tank is not likely to explode because it is vented and is not a sealed can.

See: "Cars Just Don't Explode" : Cars just dont explode | Automotive Thinker - Discussing the finer points of automobiles

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