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Yeah my centri gets pretty hot too but never hot enough to where I have detonation. I'm not even running an intercooler but I'm only running 8 psi. In my case I'm running as much timing as I can n/a and f/i so if I were to run a meth kit I don't think there would be anymore power to give.
Heat soak happens I suppose but usually by the time it's my turn to go again it's cooled off to be a non issue or not enough of an issue to break anything. Maybe the op has more timing to give though.


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Yeah, I'm not getting detonation, or any issues at all really (other than slower ETs and lower MPHs as it heats up), I'm just trying to basically trick the car into thinking it's running on a cooler day.

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The heat of the casing isn't a good indication of the heat of the charge air. I'd want the casing flaming hot, that's suggesting charge heat rejection through the aluminum of the casing. This is why IAT2 is generally measured just before the air hits the intake manifold. Why PD blowers heat soak is a function of two things, the fact they are sitting on top of a heat pump and the way a PD blower works, which is to introduce a fixed volume of air into the intake manifold, at all rpm. This is why modern style PD blowers have a vacuum bypass built in, to reduce the adiabatic heating in the system, because the intercooler can't reject enough heat fast enough. Old school Roots blowers, hot rod style don't have this and really struggle as the temps rise.
I didn't think of the head unit temp and the air charge being different, that makes sense. Guess I shouldn't worry about it too much until I get some IATs.

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02_GT_5Spd, the cutting on the bumper is something I totally didn't even consider during our other exchange on the IC issue!
I was very fortunate that a good friend of mine, and engineer, did the Stage 2 on his 2012 BOSS 302 (with the help of another mutual friend who is an engineer!); they handled the install of my P-1SC-1 Stage 2 while I sat on the garage floor eating pizza and drinking beer! One of the things that got them slowed up on the 2012 BOSS 302 was reinstalling the bumper cover after putting on that Stage 2 IC. They had to hold it in place, then trim a little off, then hold it in place, then trim a little more off, then hold it in place...
...you get the idea.
When it came to my 2014 GT, the bumper cover just went right on!


If I were you, I'd consider looking for a stage 2 IC out there somewhere maybe used??? Or some other aftermarket options? For instance there is this: Mishimoto Universal Mustang Intercooler M Line MMINT-UM (79-17 All) - Free Shipping .
The thing is, I don't know what it'd take to get the piping sorted out to make it work with your ProCharger. And if I member correctly, the P1-SC-1 has the MAF installed into the outlet side of the IC; there is no provision for this with the linked IC (I think). So you'd have to figure out that with the piping.


And it looks like you're right; they did change the design of the new HO IC for your kit to a taller skinny IC.
I've benched the upgraded IC idea, the updated HO intercooler is $900 on its own, and the fabwork required to get a Stage2 or aftermarket unit to work aren't worth it to me as, like I mentioned above, looking for lower IATs isn't to fix/avoid issues, it's just an attempt to run more consistently to the car's potential at the track on a hot day.


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What are your IATs right now?
Only took me a year and a half but I finally got some IATs, lol.

I've done three pulls this week:

One at 5AM Tuesday with an outside temp of ~50 degrees, IAT was low 130s at the top of fourth WOT

Two this afternoon pretty much back-to-back, outside air temp ~70 degrees, first pull IAT was mid 130s, second pull was flirting with 160

So if ~130 degrees is the Mendoza line regarding IATs, it seems like a single pass isn't bad regardless of outside temps, but a multiple pass situation might warrant some action as just a second pass/pull pushed it to almost 160.

Thoughts . . .


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Time to get a better intercooler or meth.
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So those IATs warrant taking some action?

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