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I believe that the G2 caliper paint is brush on. With the cash that you’ve invested into your calipers, I personally would never consider brush on paint. I would lightly sand, primer (also acts as a fill agent), paint, then clear. All those products can be found specifically designed for brake calipers. Good luck!
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I believe that the G2 caliper paint is brush on. With the cash that you’ve invested into your calipers, I personally would never consider brush on paint. I would lightly sand, primer (also acts as a fill agent), paint, then clear. All those products can be found specifically designed for brake calipers. Good luck!

A friend of mine has used it (custom mix in school bus yellow for his BOSS 302) and it looks damn near like powder-coat. I believe the paint has self-leveling properties. But, I did buy a Preval spray can for this job with the paint.



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Can someone please tell me if I have to change the brake lines or if the stock ones will work? I have an 07 GT.
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You will have to change front brake lines.
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Rockauto has the OEM Brembo calipers BR3Z-2B121-B & BR3Z-2B120-B for $207 and $225 each. Only one side requires a $50 core charge.

Therefore, for genuine Brembo calipers the cost is $482. Parts from Tasca are about about $85 more
Your O'Reilly versions with paint and decals (partial cost of decals) = $327

That's a savings of $154 but doesn't quantify the time and effort to paint the calipers.

Is $154 worth it? You may get away with it on the street, but if you ever want to take it to a road course don't expect the aluminum alloy used in the knockoffs will be as good as the Brembo's. I'm sure O'Reilly/Cardone/Autozone didn't test it on a track to see if it will withstand flexing and high heat when stopping a 3700 lb Mustang from 120+ mph on a repetitive basis.

My opinion is that these are just ticking time bombs.
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Rockauto has the OEM Brembo calipers BR3Z-2B121-B & BR3Z-2B120-B for $207 and $225 each. Only one side requires a $50 core charge.

Therefore, for genuine Brembo calipers the cost is $482. Parts from Tasca are about about $85 more
Your O'Reilly versions with paint and decals (partial cost of decals) = $327

That's a savings of $154 but doesn't quantify the time and effort to paint the calipers.

Is $154 worth it? You may get away with it on the street, but if you ever want to take it to a road course don't expect the aluminum alloy used in the knockoffs will be as good as the Brembo's. I'm sure O'Reilly/Cardone/Autozone didn't test it on a track to see if it will withstand flexing and high heat when stopping a 3700 lb Mustang from 120+ mph on a repetitive basis.

My opinion is that these are just ticking time bombs.
Your math is slightly off. I'll be in to these brakes $263.56 for the calipers, paint, and decals; $218.44 less than the straight up Motorcraft/Brembo. I'd be painting the calipers irregardless of the source of manufacture to the grabber blue color as it's an accent color I've been using on the car (was even going to paint the stock calipers before I planned the upgrade). Then I'd be into the Motorcraft/Brembo units for 564.18 with paint. About the same I have into the whole project at this point with stainless lines and pads with everything else.

And what if the aluminum alloy is just as good in the knockoffs? We don't know. I know I'm rolling the dice a little on this; I've mentioned this in an earlier post in this thread. So is $218.56 worth it? It might be! For how I use the car with the occasional spirited driving, it might possibly turn out to be a great economical way to upgrade my brake performance. I also realize it may fall flat on it's face.


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You will have to change front brake lines.
I'm curious as to what the difference is. I wont see the difference until I get the old brakes off the car.


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I'm curious as to what the difference is. I wont see the difference until I get the old brakes off the car.
If you are already yanking the calipers you might as well upgrade the brake lines to stainless steel braided. Between these lines and the clutch lines, upgrading to braided stainless is totally worth it.
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I'm curious as to what the difference is. I wont see the difference until I get the old brakes off the car.
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Rockauto has the OEM Brembo calipers BR3Z-2B121-B & BR3Z-2B120-B for $207 and $225 each. Only one side requires a $50 core charge.

Therefore, for genuine Brembo calipers the cost is $482. Parts from Tasca are about about $85 more
Your O'Reilly versions with paint and decals (partial cost of decals) = $327

That's a savings of $154 but doesn't quantify the time and effort to paint the calipers.

Is $154 worth it? You may get away with it on the street, but if you ever want to take it to a road course don't expect the aluminum alloy used in the knockoffs will be as good as the Brembo's. I'm sure O'Reilly/Cardone/Autozone didn't test it on a track to see if it will withstand flexing and high heat when stopping a 3700 lb Mustang from 120+ mph on a repetitive basis.

My opinion is that these are just ticking time bombs.
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If you are already yanking the calipers you might as well upgrade the brake lines to stainless steel braided. Between these lines and the clutch lines, upgrading to braided stainless is totally worth it.
For sure doing to the braided stainless lines, front and back. They'll be here Tuesday.


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For sure doing to the braided stainless lines, front and back. They'll be here Tuesday.
Yeah my next upgrade is to install a separate clutch fluid reservoir, late model restoration now offers an alternative to the expensive Shelby one. Going to pick that up soon.
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Yeah my next upgrade is to install a separate clutch fluid reservoir, late model restoration now offers an alternative to the expensive Shelby one. Going to pick that up soon.
I want to do that SVE reservoir too!


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So I spent some more money yesterday on the brake project...

I bought some high-temp brake fluid and a vacuum bleeder. Now all I need to find is some time!

Well, I also need to find something to cap off the brake lines too. I have no clue how long the rear brakes will be off the car for painting and drying before I hang the new brake lines and mount the calipers.


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. . . . I bought some high-temp brake fluid and a vacuum bleeder. . . .

Well, I also need to find something to cap off the brake lines too. . . .
I tried one of those vacuum bleeders and got so frustrated with it that I actually took it back, and bought a pressure bleeder instead. The vacuum bleeder depends on getting a good seal around the bleeder screw and I could never get that to work. I would get bubbles in the line and I couldn't tell if they were actually coming out of the brakes, or just leaking in from the bleeder. In my experience the pressure bleeder worked much better because you don't need a vacuum-tight connection on the bleeder screw. Interested to hear if you have any luck with it.

I never did find anything to cap the lines, but that is a real good idea. A tiny rubber cork/stopper might work; or maybe the caps from the bleeder screws. I'm sure shops must have some way of handling this, but when I asked around, I got "non response" like they did not know what I was talking about; or it was a super-triple-extra trade secret that they did not want to share.

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Progress is SLOW and based on how much time I can work into the schedule to get on it. This past Sunday, I disassembled the rear brakes to get them cleaned up and painted. Hopefully I'll get an opportunity to get them cleaned during the week so that I can paint them Saturday and Sunday.




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