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Speaker upgrades?

I was thinking of pulling the door panels off to check tightening of the windows in my pursuit of small rattles and found videos on youtube to facilitate. They do it though to replace the speakers and I wondered if maybe it might be worth doing it also while I have them off. I have a basic system in my base 2014 and am not really impressed with the sound. I don't use it much anyway but noticeably the sound in my 2015 Fusion is vastly superior. I'm wondering though if just speakers will make much difference.
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Even the cheapest aftermarket speaker will make a HUGE difference in sound quality. A good 3 way 5x7 will blow you away in the sound quality even when driven by the factory amp. You don't need to get separate components to get a nice sound. Just make sure to keep the factory bass speakers in the doors.

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Even the cheapest aftermarket speaker will make a HUGE difference in sound quality. A good 3 way 5x7 will blow you away in the sound quality even when driven by the factory amp. You don't need to get separate components to get a nice sound. Just make sure to keep the factory bass speakers in the doors.
I believe the size may actually be 6x8 and no separate speakers for bass. Here is a set I see advertised
2005-2014 Mustang Kicker CS 6x8 Speaker Upgrade Kit
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Yes, Yes and Yes on the new speakers.
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Even on my Shaker 500, the factory speakers were crap. I threw them in the trash
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What are your preferences/suggestions for speakers, considering no other audio component upgrades, just speaker replacement? I am currently looking at the the Kickers in the link I posted above, in addition to the Pioneer TS A688AR and the Pyle PL683BL (all Chinese) These I believe are obsolete models now and can be had fairly cheap (under $60 for the 4 in the case of the Pyle)
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I wound up buying 2 pairs of these for under $50 shipped. They should be well suited for the low output of the stock radio and they're cheap enough too. I'll post again when I get them and put them in.

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I found Focals in clearance bin at Crutchfield.......they made a huge difference. The OEM's stink I describe it as listening to my drunk friends playing Bohemian Rhapsody on kazoos. Mine could have used a sub to get bass but the ease (1/2 day) of swapping all 4 was well worth it to me.
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I found Focals in clearance bin at Crutchfield.......they made a huge difference. The OEM's stink I describe it as listening to my drunk friends playing Bohemian Rhapsody on kazoos. Mine could have used a sub to get bass but the ease (1/2 day) of swapping all 4 was well worth it to me.
I checked with the people at Crutchfield and told them about the speakers I was considering for my application and they discourged those in favor of some Infinitys they had that were over $100 a pair but had the lower wattage like the ones I eventually bought which would be more efficient with my lower power radio. $50 instead of $200 so I'll see how they sound. If it makes me play the radio at all that will be a plus
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The power handling capability of a speaker is not directly related to the efficiency/sensitivity of the speaker. In other words, a 100W speaker is not inherently less efficient than a 50W speaker. The two (power handling and efficiency) are separate specifications. You should look for speakers that can handle the output power of your amp (whether it's an external amp or just the one that's in the head unit), then compare which of those has better efficiency because that will mean getting more volume out of the same amount of power.

If someone at Crutchfield told you that a lower powered speaker would be more efficient just because it's lower powered and without checking the actual specs, then that person is a moron and really should know better considering where he's working.

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. . . If someone at Crutchfield told you that a lower powered speaker would be more efficient just because it's lower powered and without checking the actual specs, then that person is a moron and really should know better considering where he's working.
I'm guessing he was probably simplifying the explanation, and actually meant what you said earlier . . . but that could be wishful guessing, LOL :-)
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The power handling capability of a speaker is not directly related to the efficiency/sensitivity of the speaker. In other words, a 100W speaker is not inherently less efficient than a 50W speaker. The two (power handling and efficiency) are separate specifications. You should look for speakers that can handle the output power of your amp (whether it's an external amp or just the one that's in the head unit), then compare which of those has better efficiency because that will mean getting more volume out of the same amount of power.

If someone at Crutchfield told you that a lower powered speaker would be more efficient just because it's lower powered and without checking the actual specs, then that person is a moron and really should know better considering where he's working.
He didn't tell me that specifically in those words but rather was my overall interpretation. My objective is improvement for minimal expense (while I have the panels off), not necessarily maximizing the efficiency of the stock radio. In fairness this is what he said:
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If you are keeping the factory stereo in that Mustang then I would not go with either of the three that you mentioned. I would honestly recommend these speakers to you. The Infinity Reference REF-8632CFX <https://www.crutchfield.com/p_108R86...F-8632cfx.html> 6x8" 2-way car speakers are high sensitivity car speaker that works amazing with factory stereos. The reason why you need a high sensitivity speaker is that your factory stereo does not push out much power to make an after market speaker sound good. So you need a high sensitivity speaker that doesn't take much power at all to sound good. These speakers fit both locations and this is what you need.
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Ahhh... that is understandable. Except that the sentence "you need a high sensitivity speaker that doesn't take much power at all to sound good." should be "you need a high sensitivity speaker that doesn't take much power at all to sound loud." Efficiency has no relation to sound quality - only to sound volume. But I can understand that they often don't get into the details in their explanations.

Infinity speakers are good quality and quite efficient but some people don't like them because they are very bright (lots of treble) compared to other brands. It's a matter of personal preference - many people like the clarity of a bright speaker while others complain that it "makes their ears bleed". It's always best to check out speakers at a local store if you can so that you have an idea of how they will sound. Take some music that you're familiar with to make comparisons.
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Thanks for the video. I need to adjust my window and this will help. Too late now I guess, but I installed infinity reference speakers in my old jeep many years back and they were really good.
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My Shaker (not Shaker Pro) system had some goofy paired midrange and tweeter speakers mounted together in a molded step shaped housing that conformed to the inside of the door. I had to purchase those black plastic adapters (shown in the videos) before I could mount conventional flat framed speakers. I went with the full Shelby Store / Kicker upgrade including the 8" door subs, trunk sub and amp. Not sure if these bits are still available but they do sound great.

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