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Cool Look out guys! 2011 Z28 camaro

Expect a 0-60 of 3.9-4.0 seconds from a supercharged 6.2L engine? Motortrend says it's supposed to have 556 horsepower.

Oh wait, I forgot... the 2011 Shelby still has a smaller engine (5.4L) and manages the same acceleration and power. And I highly doubt the Z28 will handle at all like the Shelby, but we'll see.

Still, the camaro fails.

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Wow, that's pretty bad ass. I wonder what the price range will be.


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My guess is the Z28 will be the first real threat to the GT500 going strait but I too highly doubt it will be as refined or and good in the bends at the '11 Shelby... Watch that Z28 be more expensive than the Shelby too lol

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20 inch rims thats a little hard to get good handling out of that.

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It won't be out until 2012, I thought I heard, due to GM's financial difficulties! I would not think they would have money to dedicate to building those vehicles until their current Debt is paid off. So from what I have heard there will be no change to the 2011 Camaro's except to its V6 which will have 312HP but then that nothing was changed it was just supposedly underrated in the 2010 Model but same exact motor with same exact tuning and parts nothing different just got the approval to up the numbers on paper! SS will still be around with its LS3 and we all know how those are!
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just a FYI GM has paid off its debt. . . actually 5 years early too
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Scratch that last post. Yes GM paid the government back but make no mistake about it they still have lots of debt. They took loans to pay off the government loan. They just get to say they do not owe the government money. Either way they are in debt up to their eyeballs. As a side note so is Ford. Ford was just smarter about it. They were the first to get into financial trouble and borrowed allot of money a few years ago when money was cheap.
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That's not entirely true. GM paid off several billion in loans but they have not yet bought back the 50 billion or more in stocks the US government was forced to buy. I would hardly call that "paid back"

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The Z28 will be quite a car. As of now the Camaro does pretty well at hooking up and I'm sure this one will too. Acceleration times will be fast but it will lack any type of handling and cornering because of its weight. Chevy and Dodge screwed up badly when building their new muscle cars. Since they used existing car platforms the size and weight of the vehicles was undeniable. They're realizing this now since the 2011 Mustang is whooping them in every category. I would assume that Chevy has plans to lesson the weight when the new generation comes out. Ford has already announced they will be too. Dodge on the other hand, I would guess they will drop the Challenger from the line up in the next couple of years. The Challenger is a very impractical car!

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The Z28 will be quite a car. As of now the Camaro does pretty well at hooking up and I'm sure this one will too. Acceleration times will be fast but it will lack any type of handling and cornering because of its weight. Chevy and Dodge screwed up badly when building their new muscle cars. Since they used existing car platforms the size and weight of the vehicles was undeniable. They're realizing this now since the 2011 Mustang is whooping them in every category. I would assume that Chevy has plans to lesson the weight when the new generation comes out. Ford has already announced they will be too. Dodge on the other hand, I would guess they will drop the Challenger from the line up in the next couple of years. The Challenger is a very impractical car!
With the largest trunk, seating for five, and the most comfy ride the challenger is the most practical of the bunch. I think what you meant was the challenger is not a contender as a sports car. It does fine as a muscle car. The mustang has bridged the gap into becoming a full fledged sports car while the camaro falls in the middle.

Challenger wins as the most practical for free way travel. Impractical as hell maybe in a large city like NYC ATL or CHI, if that's what you meant.

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With the largest trunk, seating for five, and the most comfy ride the challenger is the most practical of the bunch. I think what you meant was the challenger is not a contender as a sports car. It does fine as a muscle car. The mustang has bridged the gap into becoming a full fledged sports car while the camaro falls in the middle.

Challenger wins as the most practical for free way travel. Impractical as hell maybe in a large city like NYC ATL or CHI, if that's what you meant.
It gets the worst mileage, its the heaviest, its the slowest (even the SRT 8 loses to the 5.0 and SS at $10k more), its the worst at cornering, its sales are fractions of what the Mustang and Camaro have been selling like, and its priced the highest..

Thats why I think it is impractical. Most people who are buying new age Muscle cars want them because they are quick, get decent mileage, and don't break the bank not because its a combination of a Muscle car and an SUV.

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dont make any assumptions just yet about the z28. Keep talking trash about it and it'll prolly come back and bite you in arse.
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isn't the article posted in the original post from 2009?
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I don't care if they make a Camaro w/1000Hp.It still has the ugliest cheapest interior i've ever seen in a GM vehicle.You can't even see out the damn thing to even change lanes.As far as them paying the gov. back all they did is ROB PETER to PAY PAUL!

The fact is all this means is that they appear to be trying to 1up each other which is great for all of us!!!!

The price of the Camode Z should be competetive with the GT 500.This would make sense.By the way they already have a 556 Hp engine in the Caddy.0-60 3.9 secs.The cost i'm sure is pretty high could probably get 2 Mustang GT's for about the same amount!

Don't be coming here & crying because the current Camode is getting it's ass kicked!This little bit from the July MT Showdown! The 2011 Mustang Takes On All Comers

Clearly the Camaro isn't aging as gracefully as some cars do.

1st-Mustang GT
2nd-Dodge challenger SRT8
3rd-Chevy Camaro

Looks like to me the Love affair with the new Camode is already OVER!How anybody ever loved it in the 1st place is beyond me!By the way don't be asking for anymore of my money to BAIL YOUR ASSES OUT!NUFF SAID!!!!!!!

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With the largest trunk, seating for five, and the most comfy ride the challenger is the most practical of the bunch. I think what you meant was the challenger is not a contender as a sports car. It does fine as a muscle car. The mustang has bridged the gap into becoming a full fledged sports car while the camaro falls in the middle.

Challenger wins as the most practical for free way travel. Impractical as hell maybe in a large city like NYC ATL or CHI, if that's what you meant.
Owned two Challengers, 2008 SRT8 and 2009 R/T. Big, fat, heavy sows that just kind of float along like my grandparents 75 caprice. Yes, the SRT8 handles better than the R/T but still not very nimble at all. Sure they have great low end torque but the throttle response is better on my riding lawn mower, seriously. A throw back to 1970s muscle car styling it is, a cutting edge, good handling, high performance vehicle it is not. What you describe above is more like a "family truckster" than a muscle car ; Who buys a muscle car for trunk space? This vehicle is for those, like myself, who cannot afford a 1970 challenger but would like drive something that reminds us of a great era in American automotive history. Bottom line..... I drove the 2011 Mustang and the Challengers were history! Challengers are great to look at but I became bored with driving them.


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