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jmatero 09-23-2011 02:42 AM

TrueDelta Lists 2011 Mustang as Most Problematic in Years
 
True delta.com is now reporting the 2011 Mustang is the most problematic model year since they began collecting data in 2005.

They show an average of 38 trips per year for a major repair per 100 vehicles. More disturbing is the average milage is 6200 for a major repair.

For comparison, the 2007 Mustang was 8 major repairs per 100 vehicles at an average milage of 28,000.

Average milage before major repair - Ford Mustang:

2005: 60,700
2006: 42,800
2007: 28,300
2008: 21,800
2010: 12,800
2011: 6,200

silver50 09-23-2011 03:49 AM

i hope they fix these problems with these cars soon, but is to be expected with a new model engine and body style. still loving the car though, even with all the problems that are occurring.

Vitellius 09-23-2011 04:03 AM

Wow LOL, im 100% problem free . . . . and i bought one extended warranty on my 2011 v6 auto and a extended warranty + service contract on my gt500. 2011 v6 auto has 46,451 miles on it and not one problem with it, its smooth as butter no ticks, smells after 15k miles, knocks, or squeeks. Auto is smoooooth as can be after 2k miles. '10 GT500 has 22,300 miles on it and runs like new, and not one problem on it except damage ive caused on it myslef . . .

Ive recomended the car to everyone thats asked about at work and in my social cercle.

jmatero 09-23-2011 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitellius (Post 2744078)
Wow LOL, im 100% problem free . . . . and i bought one extended warranty on my 2011 v6 auto and a extended warranty + service contract on my gt500. 2011 v6 auto has 46,451 miles on it and not one problem with it, its smooth as butter no ticks, smells after 15k miles, knocks, or squeeks. Auto is smoooooth as can be after 2k miles. '10 GT500 has 22,300 miles on it and runs like new, and not one problem on it except damage ive caused on it myslef . . .

Ive recomended the car to everyone thats asked about at work and in my social cercle.

I suspect your good fortune is a result of selecting the automatic. Smart move!!!

Vitellius 09-23-2011 04:11 AM

yeah . . . and the gt500 has a tremc . . .

rmrper99 09-23-2011 09:37 AM

Yea, sadly I'm going to guess this is mostly due to the MT-82 issues. 6500+ trouble free miles on my Auto GT here.

Rake 09-23-2011 12:44 PM

And, predictably, the zero integrity fanboy apologists flock to another thread proving these cars have major problems, and attack the OP rather then admit the information he is presenting is valid. The fact that this thread is 100% indisputable scientific fact had no impact on your responses whatsoever, did it? :laugh:

hawkeye18 09-23-2011 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rake (Post 2744440)
The fact that this thread is 100% indisputable scientific fact had no impact on your responses whatsoever, did it? :laugh:

Does TrueDelta have a statistically significant sample pool? Has peer review of the results been performed? Have the results been independently verified? Have controls been established?

TrueDelta is a useful tool and offers insight into a specific area of vehicle ownership, but to call it 100% indisputable and scientific fact is outlandish, as it is neither.

The 2011 is a completely new drivetrain; history has shown (with 100% accuracy and scientific fact) that first model years of new drivetrains over almost all vehicles have had more issues than other years.

jmatero 09-23-2011 01:53 PM

The site collects and utilizes 'real-world' repair rates from regular survey data supplied by its user base. The site is one of a few services to utilize statistical analysis to report this data. The site then updates the results quarterly. With this frequency, information on new models will be at most 3 months old, making it possible for these models to be closely tracked as they age.

TrueDelta.com was developed in 2004 by Dr. Michael Karesh, an expert in consumer behavior. For his PhD Thesis, Karesh studied within General Motors for a year and half, researching how well they understood consumers when developing new products. For his Masters thesis, Karesh did work with early research in consumer behavior. Additionally Karesh has written and published much on cars. He has been a contributor to the car review site The Truth About Cars, and is one of the category leads for the Epinions.com auto section.

TrueDelta's data collection methodology differs form other publications such as Consumer Reports. Consumer Reports compiles data from reader surveys once annually while Truedelta.com takes monthly surveys and issues quarterly reports.

witt 09-23-2011 01:53 PM

Its far from scientific fact, its not a scientific survey, hell its not even a random off the wall survey. It only pertains to people who sign up and respond to their emails issued by that site.

The BMW M3 data is just as interesting...

Average milage before major repair:

2005: 53,200
2008: 20,000
2009: 15,100
2010: 11,700
2011: 6,300

2011 M3 shows an average of 39 trips per year for a major repair per 100 vehicles.

Frank Lemon 09-23-2011 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rake (Post 2744440)
And, predictably, the zero integrity fanboy apologists flock to another thread proving these cars have major problems, and attack the OP rather then admit the information he is presenting is valid. The fact that this thread is 100% indisputable scientific fact had no impact on your responses whatsoever, did it? :laugh:

+Juan

some of you guys really are pathetic, and jmatero is not included in that list.

The first major repair to my car was at 357 miles, with a blown up rear end.

ZMoneY 09-23-2011 02:29 PM

Well it's time to sell my mustang cuz let's face it all 2011+ mustangs are doomed to fail. This 100% scientific study proves it. We all know everything on the Internet is true.

BTW anyone who expects any ANY! mechanical/electric device to always be 100% fail proof is a damn fool. In a few years there will be no 2011/2012s on the road tru story.

I'm amazed I've gone 6k miles in mine just amazed!!!

Frank Lemon 09-23-2011 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMoneY (Post 2744561)
Well it's time to sell my mustang cuz let's face it all 2011+ mustangs are doomed to fail. This 100% scientific study proves it. We all know everything on the Internet is true.

BTW anyone who expects any ANY! mechanical/electric device to always be 100% fail proof is a damn fool. In a few years there will be no 2011/2012s on the road tru story.

I'm amazed I've gone 6k miles in mine just amazed!!!

see, but no one is saying every one is doomed to fail. I hope yours does though. Tru story.

jmatero 09-23-2011 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMoneY (Post 2744561)
Well it's time to sell my mustang cuz let's face it all 2011+ mustangs are doomed to fail. This 100% scientific study proves it. We all know everything on the Internet is true.

BTW anyone who expects any ANY! mechanical/electric device to always be 100% fail proof is a damn fool. In a few years there will be no 2011/2012s on the road tru story.

I'm amazed I've gone 6k miles in mine just amazed!!!

We're not expecting our Mustangs to be 100% We do, however, expect to be able to shift our cars and not need transmission replacements before, say, 150,000 miles.

And nobody has suggested that they will all fail but considering the track record here, I'd be concerned about Ford not acknowledging the issue or providing a fix after 1.5 years of consistent complaints.

Frank Lemon 09-23-2011 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMoneY (Post 2744586)
It already is ****** man I got a MT-82!!! It's almost winter I have no hope.


You must realize that for every shiity mustang post must be countered with a good mustang post.

What was Jmatero trying to accomplish with this statistical info? Inform more ppl to not buy mustangs??? To make his situation better so ppl agree with him? It's like if I go on a Mac forum and post how it cost 2x as much as a pc so you should get a pc. The 2011's are flawed to hell so you better look else were for a new car.

I couldn't disagree more with your assessment of the situation.


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