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That's awesome. I'm a huge fan of those birds. Then again, I'm a huge fan of any sort of flying fortress that can perform short take offs, transport large payloads and not sink out of the sky.

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Ditto, I heard your exhaust video! Envy

I hope they don't fall out of the sky every day, we had an Alaska bird 2 years ago practicing for their airshow sink out of the sky. Crew error, very sad.

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I wrote Deysha a private message. I don't know what help that will be if any. Fingers crossed. Maybe I'll I get a good service tech tomorrow.

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Ditto, I heard your exhaust video! Envy

I hope they don't fall out of the sky every day, we had an Alaska bird 2 years ago practicing for their airshow sink out of the sky. Crew error, very sad.
Thanks!

That's tragic... Aviation definitely is not one of those 'safer' occupations. One of my competitive pilot friends lost a buddy earlier this year performing maneuvers for a show as well. My worst fear is entering an uncontrollable stall (or being too low..)

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Wow! I don't drive with advance Trac of traction control on unless the roads are slick. I drive with everything off. I like to be the one in control of my car, and the car moves faster with everything off. At least the butt dyno feels that way.
Would make absolutely no difference if you have TC on or not. The wheelspeed sensors provide information to the ABS system as well, which you cannot defeat with a press of a button.
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Ditto, I heard your exhaust video! Envy

I hope they don't fall out of the sky every day, we had an Alaska bird 2 years ago practicing for their airshow sink out of the sky. Crew error, very sad.
As a Boeing engineer (I'm on the H-47, not the C-17), I can promise you our main goal is to make sure they don't fall out of the sky.

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I only rode in one C-17 and it was pretty sweet.
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Would make absolutely no difference if you have TC on or not. The wheelspeed sensors provide information to the ABS system as well, which you cannot defeat with a press of a button.
It sounds like the ESC is not working properly. If so, I would think that turning the AdvanceTrac off entirely might bypass the issue until you get to a dealer.

From the manual:
Electronic stability control (ESC) may enhance your vehicle’s directional
stability during adverse maneuvers, for example when cornering severely
or avoiding objects in the roadway. ESC operates by applying brakes to
one or more of the wheels individually and, if necessary, reducing engine
power if the system detects that the vehicle is about to skid or slide
laterally.


That sounds a lot like what she is experiencing: individual wheel braking and reduced engine power.

I'd turn off AdvanceTrac entirely on my way to the dealer. Press button 5 or more seconds while holding down the brake pedal.

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Would make absolutely no difference if you have TC on or not. The wheelspeed sensors provide information to the ABS system as well, which you cannot defeat with a press of a button.
I was hoping at the time I could pull over, stop and turn advanctrac completly off. It wouldn't let me. That should have been my clue to turn the car off, pull the - terminal and start over...
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Sounds like an issue with a sensor, or communication to/from the PCM. Disabling Advancetrack may or may not work. I'd get the car to the dealer pronto.


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I only rode in one C-17 and it was pretty sweet.
When you're down range you want a Moose flight(C-17) not chrome or glide, or all those others(c-130). Ride in style if you can.
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It was 80F, on a clear, flat, smooth dry on ramp. I tried to get around an 18 wheeler hauling rocks. I had TC off, and went to 2/3 or 3/4 throttle, didn't even floor it, when I got along side the truck the TC Active light came on cutting the throttle and slaming on each brake individually in a clockwise order. I wasn't even coming close to breaking any traction, and this went on for a while. I pulled over, put it in park then pulled back out to get on the freeway. I very slowly and steadilly pulled up to about 50mph and the TC freaked out again!! Slamming each individual brake so hard I began swirving badly, and I'm in the middle lane with traffic passing me on both sides now. Even when I slowed way down it is still going nuts.
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Wow, that sounds scary. Maybe contact Deysha to with your VIN and the issue for more help when you take it into the dealer.
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I wrote Deysha a private message. I don't know what help that will be if any. Fingers crossed. Maybe I'll I get a good service tech tomorrow.
Hi 11Red3.7,

I received your PM. Will you please send me your full name, dealer, and best daytime number as well?

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Happened to me once too. My ECM stored the code. Loss of signal from the wheel speed sensor. I don't remember the exact terminology. That was over a year ago.

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It sounds like the ESC is not working properly. If so, I would think that turning the AdvanceTrac off entirely might bypass the issue until you get to a dealer.

I'd turn off AdvanceTrac entirely on my way to the dealer. Press button 5 or more seconds while holding down the brake pedal.

Good luck.
The 5-second press is not turning off Advance Trac but rather a user-request for the reduction of ESC intervention. The hardware is still active for ABS and a wheelspeed sensor fault can still cause the symptoms the OP is experiencing.

The only way to completely turn off ESC/TC/ABS would be to cut power to the electrohydraulic unit under the hood either by pulling the fuse or disconnecting the connector at the unit itself.

The OP can always try the 5-second button press, it might be enough to get to the dealer.
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... I have very short, and very dirty finger nails most of the time. Maybe some residual hydraulic fluid, or Jet-A fuel
Wow, nice. Just what most guys are looking for.

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