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It tamed and deepened the sound at idle and part throttle, and reduced some of the racecar rasp over 4K.
interesting, sounds like something I should consider onces i make the jump to long tubes.

i originaly was gonna go with a catless H pipe but ended up going X because the shop (lethal) didn't have H's in stock so they convinced me into the X. and im very happy with the sound paired with hushpowers.


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anyone have any experience with (or know any one) that can speak to the heartthrob H and flowpack system? I have been trying to research this...Heartthrob Mustang Flowpack Cat-to-Axle H-Pipe Kit (11-13 GT) 1029050 - Free Shipping!

Sounds like the flowpack mufflers would be better than the straight pipes to achieve the sound I am after. I also don't want to spend a ton trying to get what I want. I knew what I would get with the Borla's... i just wish they made an H system. I have only seen an X from them and most of them have the raspy I'm trying to get rid of.

EDIT: NM my Borla inlet tips are 2.75" and that is a 3" kit so it wouldn't work. I would have to find something different, maybe just an H pipe. Course most of those are all 3" as well.


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I have the Magnapacks and it sounds amazing with an X pipe, catted or offroad (I have removable cats). With the catted x pipe, it sounded really nice and was loud, but it wasnt obnoxiously loud. The amount of rasp was just perfect too, didnt get raspy until after 3000 RPMs. But I removed my cats a few weeks ago and I havent looked back. It's much louder (as expected) and the rip in the exhaust sounds fantastic, but if you hate rasp, I wouldnt recommend it. I dont (or didnt) like rasp either, but the Magnapacks do it right.


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anyone have any experience with (or know any one) that can speak to the heartthrob H and flowpack system? I have been trying to research this...Heartthrob Mustang Flowpack Cat-to-Axle H-Pipe Kit (11-13 GT) 1029050 - Free Shipping!

Sounds like the flowpack mufflers would be better than the straight pipes to achieve the sound I am after. I also don't want to spend a ton trying to get what I want. I knew what I would get with the Borla's... i just wish they made an H system. I have only seen an X from them and most of them have the raspy I'm trying to get rid of.

I don't have personal experience with Heartthrob but from what I have always gathered based on feedback only, quality is second rate.
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Magnapacks are a clean sound

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EDIT: NM my Borla inlet tips are 2.75" and that is a 3" kit so it wouldn't work. I would have to find something different, maybe just an H pipe. Course most of those are all 3" as well.
The Heartthrob should bolt up to your Borla axlebacks fine. They use the proper ball and socket joint so the Heartthrob kit can work with any axlebacks or even the stock mufflers.

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I don't have personal experience with Heartthrob but from what I have always gathered based on feedback only, quality is second rate.

From what I have read, I agree.
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If you do decide to get the Heartthrob setup, just know that you will have to do some cutting and welding to get it to fit correctly.

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Thanks for the feedback! In doing more research I have heard good things about the MRT H pipe... I might just leave it how it is... I don't dislike the Borla S just want something deeper. Nothing im going do to anytime soon. So plenty more back and forth before a final decision is made. Thanks again!

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I have a HT 3"catback with an x-pipe. I really like it for the price. It leaked some, but a welder took care of that.
Now, just FYI, I just happened to be looking at Heartthrob's website the other day, and they have a video saying that their h-pipe catback gained something like 21 HP over stock, while the x only gained something like 6 HP over stock. Granted, you have to take everything with a grain of salt, but I was really surprised that I had never heard that claim before. Most folks I know run an x, thinking it makes marginally more power at peak. Well, if Heartthrob's CEO says his H makes more power, I'm gonna believe it. Even if it's 1/2 the difference he says it is. So today I called Heartthrob, explained my setup, and ordered an h-pipe (only). For a whopping 75 bucks! Even a 10 HP difference is a great deal for $75. :kooky:
Point being: Heartthrob is a good company to work with, has a good product at a good price, and if I were you I would go ahead and get the h-pipe. Hope this helps! JD

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Now, just FYI, I just happened to be looking at Heartthrob's website the other day, and they have a video saying that their h-pipe catback gained something like 21 HP over stock, while the x only gained something like 6 HP over stock. Granted, you have to take everything with a grain of salt, but I was really surprised that I had never heard that claim before. Most folks I know run an x, thinking it makes marginally more power at peak. Well, if Heartthrob's CEO says his H makes more power, I'm gonna believe it. Even if it's 1/2 the difference he says it is. So today I called Heartthrob, explained my setup, and ordered an h-pipe (only). For a whopping 75 bucks! Even a 10

Yeah you really can't take that video seriously. I've seen it too. He claims an additional 12RWHP just using his axle back as well. Everyone knows that's bull and you don't get jack squat from replacing axle backs. A change in atmospheric temperature could make that type of deviation run for run.
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[quote=nsadams87xx;3277492]Yeah you really can't take that video seriously. I've seen it too. He claims an additional 12RWHP just using his axle back as well. Everyone knows that's bull and you don't get jack squat from replacing axle backs. A change in atmospheric temperature could make that type of deviation run for run.[/quote

Yeah, I'm "skeptical" and "cautiously optimistic" at the same time..."skeptically optimistic"? Anyway, I can't help but hope the h might make a little more. Been wanting to try one, anyway next season.

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Yeah, I'm "skeptical" and "cautiously optimistic" at the same time..."skeptically optimistic"? Anyway, I can't help but hope the h might make a little more. Been wanting to try one, anyway next season.

I don't blame you. This day and age with the way cylinder heads are designed, exhaut equalization is acheived much better now even with a "sharp 90 degree turn at the crossover section." Get real, marketing. Theoretically, yes, it's less effective than an X pipe the smoothens out the pulses but by what? SVTPeformance and Lethal teamed up a while ago and did back to back dyno testing of their offroad X and H pipes and found a whopping 1'ish horsepower difference on average between the two. Get what your ear likes. H pipes paired with the right mufflers sound epic. One of my favorite exhaust combos: long tube headers, high flow catted H pipe, resonator delete, and GT500 axle backs. Sounds KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLER. Sounds like an angry raw undeniable muscle car. Then another one of my favorites, my setup (well...soon to be setup, waiting on my mid pipe ): long tube headers, high flow catted X pipe, and Magnaflow Competition Catback. Sounds like a race car. Both setups do what they do well and that's what counts.
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Both setups do what they do well and that's what counts. [/quote]
Sweet. I like mine OK. Not too loud, but sounds good at WOT, which seems to be quite often. My buddy with an otherwise stock exhaust has Roush AB's, and it sounds WAAAY better than mine. I'll be putting on some cat-deletes soon, and I'm kinda worried about making it sound like sh!t when i do. Then there's the whole x/h thing. I just can't spend a ton of money on exhaust.

I've spent almost every dollar I've ever made on FAST cars, COLD beer, and HOT women. The rest, I just WASTED! 2011 GT auto, Race Red w/ white C-stripes/Airaid/BAMA/Steeda cat-delete/Heartthrob 3" catback & H-pipe/Hushpowers/UPR CA's/FRPP 3.55's & diff cover/Tint/billet grilles/CDC chin spoiler/GT500wing & valance/P.A. trans pan/ARP wheel studs/AMR 18x9/10. RACEDAY: RaceStars w/big n littles. 1/8 mi. ET- 7.63.

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Sweet. I like mine OK. Not too loud, but sounds good at WOT, which seems to be quite often. My buddy with an otherwise stock exhaust has Roush AB's, and it sounds WAAAY better than mine. I'll be putting on some cat-deletes soon, and I'm kinda worried about making it sound like sh!t when i do. Then there's the whole x/h thing. I just can't spend a ton of money on exhaust.

You have Hushpowers, so they drone a little bit, yes? From what I've HEARD, anyway, that off road mid pipes without longtubes induces even more drone. Someone else might have better insight that me though so take it as a percaution, nothing more. Unless it doesn't bother you, of course.
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[quote=nsadams87xx;3277580]You have Hushpowers, so they drone a little bit, yes? From what I've HEARD, anyway, that off road mid pipes without longtubes induces even more drone. Someone else might have better insight that me though so take it as a percaution, nothing more. Unless it doesn't bother you, of course.[/quote

Roger that. They drone around 2,000 RPM. Since I went to the 3.55's, it is much easier to drive around the drone (and everything else for that matter!) I want the few extra HP bad enough that I'm gonna try the catless system. Lower ET's is worth it... to a point. I guess we'll soon see how high my pain tolerance is soon enough! JD


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