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Not very often I need to downshift even when I am in 6th. This motor is a torque monster. But sometimes I like to throw it in 4th doing about 60 and let'er'rip. Talk about a rush!

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Depends how far down you are going, but I would imagine 4th would be fine if you can handle it. There is nothing wrong with 3rd though, just be sure to rev match.

Others: what is this loss of traction you speak of??? Ride the clutch much?
No, what happened for me was I missed 5th and hit 3rd with no rev match. The abrupt change in speed of the engine and the transmission engaging haulting the driveline until it could catch up to the rest of the system.

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^^^been there, done that (a couple two/three times) I found the narrow gates took practice. Like I posted earlier I practice for fun now.

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Rev-matching is fun as hell, but for an emergency maneuver the fewer actions the driver has to perform the better. I've 6th to 4th enough times to be able to do it at will, however I have never had to that under duress so even with practice I can't say for certain I would be able to handle a 6th to 3rd downshift when it really counted.
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Rev-matching is fun as hell, but for an emergency maneuver the fewer actions the driver has to perform the better. I've 6th to 4th enough times to be able to do it at will, however I have never had to that under duress so even with practice I can't say for certain I would be able to handle a 6th to 3rd downshift when it really counted.

I know I wouldn't be able to. That's a lot to think about when you're mind goes into fight/flight mode. The other day I saw an STi (sounded heavily modded to) get cut off by someone in a very heavy intersection and he tried to maneuver and shift but stalled and got fender bendered. It was not a pretty sight.
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Dropping into 3rd with the 2012 and prior auto seems to be common practice. Wonder if the tire traction issues still apply. So far I've had no close calls.

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Personally I'd probably get on the horn and brakes to avoid rather than flooring it if someone decided to do something dumb on the freeway. Of course that depends on the circumstances. You would probably want to rev match or it will be rough on the synchros.

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Its called Rev Matching. I do it occasionally when traffic starts pissing me off and I have an opening to fly around.

How long have you had your car? After a while you will learn what RPM the engine needs to be at for each gear and speed.

6th down to 4th is still the safest bet for hurried situations.

Edit: Also depends on your rear gears. I wouldnt do 6th down to 3rd with anything other than 3.31's unless you are going 55 or less.

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6th to 4th is the way to go, even with 3.31' (at 60+ mph). Every time I do it I can hear Capt Picard give the command "engage" as the car makes the jump to warp factor 1


I shudder to think what 6th to 3rd would be like at that speed. I have done it at around 45 a few times and it feels like the Space Shuttle leaving the launchpad at KSC. :p


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Coming from an RX-8 I'm pretty used to 6th-3rd downshifts. The MT82 really seems to "like" this maneuver, more so than going 6th-5th (that strong centering spring at work, I guess).

When you do 6th-3rd (on purpose) in the 5.0, the acceleration is intergalactic. :kooky:

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While I have an AT on my Mustang, I do own cars WITHOUT SYNCROMESH and have learned to bring the engine to the speed expected upon engaging the lower gear. (Double clutching, too) (Ever do that??)
Check your tach when winding it up in third and match that speed when engaging the lower gear and all should be well assuming the car speed and engine speed are in "Synch" and not going faster down shifting to third then you would have gone accelerating while in in third.
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I tend to agree with Kona, for most emergency situations you will be able to have a greater change in the cars speed on the breaks to avoid the problem, however that being said, I enjoy the occasional 6-3 at speed on the highway, this tends to produce a pretty intense surge in my car. :kooky:

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Wow, this is bringing back bad memories of outer belt commuting with a stick. It becomes completely intuitive after awhile but I'm so glad I have the 6R80 now.

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I have done it many times but usually between 50 and 60 mph and in straight line situations. Makes things like Camaros, Evos, 330i BMWs and such get small quick in your mirror. Just be ready to shift to fourth and have a open road in front of you For evasive manuevors I would stick with 4th

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This thread is definitely a sign of the times.

Most people now rarely drive manual transmissions, and of course the vast majority of cars sold over the last few decades have been autos.

My first car was a manual, and every car since has been a manual. I dislike the detached level of attention driving an auto creates, folks just aren't paying attention out there in their auto equipped transportation appliances.

Then, when folks buy an exciting, manual equipped car like a Mustang, there's a steep learning curve. There's knowledge to gain and techniques to practice.

I really wonder how many memebers here drive auto equipped Mustangs for the basic reason of having little to no experience with manuals, plus their purchase decision was also based on driving comfort. Let's face it, driving a manual takes effort and practice, and too many folks are used to doing nothing more than selecting "D" and puttering away.

It's pretty obvious that the days of the manual transmission are about over. The automotive market place demands an easy, cacooned, pillowy driving experience. Most folks aren't interested in the exciting, immersive driving experience that a manual delivers. They just want to tilt their seat back and get their drive over with with minimum fuss, whie paying little attention to what is going on around them. They'd actually prefer for their drives to be something akin to nap-time.

Every drive is an experience for me, I get excited every time I walk to my car to head out on the road.

This is why I truly cannot understand buying a car like a Mustang, and getting an auto......it really makes no sense.

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