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What could be illegal under the hood?


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WTF???? what could be illeagal under the hood?

oops, my bad I thought you meant trunk....:smilie


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WTF???? what could be illeagal under the hood?

oops, my bad I thought you meant trunk....:smilie

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I always thought people cant have them because they blind other drivers.
LOL, the aftermarket ones often do because one is usually aimed at the sky and the other one is aimed towards the right, towards the left, or straight down at the pavement. In other words, anywhere except in front of the car where they belong.

My favorite is when they can't make up their minds and one headlight is pink and one is blue.

I've never been "brighted" with my HIDs and fogs on, at least not so far.

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In many many jurisdictions across the country, modifying your car that is not of OEM specification and part number is a breach of local DOT compliance and therefore illegal. Around my area, modifying any part of your exhaust from OEM, even to make it quieter, is technically illegal. Yes, it's very illogical but that's just how the law in my area is written.
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Wow, thats interesting, I have never heard anything like this about HID's. At least they didnt give you a ticket.
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Here is the truth about the law....and why there are lawyers....the law is grey... There are police that will enforce it to the letter, and those that will enforce it with practicality...I have had many cars,bikes,etc.. that have legal and illegal aftermarket parts on them.... In my opinion if they do not harm others, than I'm not in the wrong... But I'm also willing to pay the fines to fight my beliefs....So no matter what we do to "our" cars...they'll always be someone saying it's wrong....and someone saying it's right...the great thing is we still have the choice to do what we want to them..but we also have to deal with those choices we make...at least we keep stimulating the economy :kooky::kooky:

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More like looking for ways to get more revenue. Lately you hear a lot of BS fines going on in order to make up for drying up tax base.
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The law can be used to control the lawless, and it can also be a tool for the lawless against the law abiding. For example, you have speed laws to prevent reckless driving on roads, but it can also be used by corrupt communities to extort money from the public. You have health and safety laws to prevent the unsafe operation of businesses. But knowing that it is impossible to meet every regulation at all times, if a criminal wants to take over a property, they bribe the inspectors to enforce every law to the fine print.

They key is in who is applying the law. And what their attitude is.
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The law can be used to control the lawless, and it can also be a tool for the lawless against the law abiding.
Very true. Caveat Emptor.

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Lol some cops have the weirdest excuses to call something illegal. So if you had the dealer install aftermarket lights then it would be legal?

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HID lights are illegal when used in housings that are meant for halogen bulbs as far as I know. 13+ mustangs come with projector style housings so they are DOT approved and legal.
Just a question powerhogger - So, you're saying that a 11-12 mustang with factory HIDs' don't have projector style housings?

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Over here they are illegal because most people install them on non projector housings. All DOT approved projectors cut at a certain angle and point. Not only that they always cut lower on the driver side so people from the other lane facing you don't get blinded by HID's. On the other had Ricers and others are installing them on Halogen housings that don't cut the light practically blinding anyone they are facing. I got stopped many times with my HID on my four banger and ended up wining all 4 in court when I stated the actual law and that even if my HID's where aftermarket they where DOT approved with number and presented an image of the light being cut after a certain point. Most cops here know they are illegal but dont really know why they are illegal in the first place they just give you a ticket in their ignorance.

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The cops have a lot of regulations that they have to remember. It is not their fault if they do not have a background in why the laws are what they are. That is what the courts are for. If there is a reasonable explanation that excuses a violation, it will be heard and adjudicated. The problem with modding is that those who know, are made to suffer for the idiots who do some cheap mod, and create traffic issues that can lead to an accident. And you have law makers who do not understand the issues.
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Just a question powerhogger - So, you're saying that a 11-12 mustang with factory HIDs' don't have projector style housings?
The're 11-12 models that come with projectors but with the simple halogen housing on others it is illegal.

With that being said, I ran HIDs on my truck before for about 3 years and never had issues with cops or others.
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I have a friend that is a LEO, he only gets the ones that go way over 6000k or 55 watt in their halogen buckets, but they are all illegal in a non HID projector.


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