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Best advice I would give someone wanting to learn how to drive a standard… Learn on someone else’s car… and try it on a tractor trailer as well…


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Initially I hold the car to 2K then slowly let out the clutch and adding more gas while trying not to build revs. I can't figure out if I'm not giving it enough gas or I'm letting out the clutch too quickly or not quick enough! I've seen countless videos and read articles but I would much rather hear it from people who actually drive my car and know its quirks. So any advice would be great!
2K before the clutch is how I start a burnout in these cars. ;-) Sounds like you have the concept described though.

At first, try about 1200 and mix the clutch and throttle to maintain the same RPM (sound) as the car speeds up until the clutch is all the way out then make the engine RPMs increase with the throttle. Thats the basic starting point which works. The transaction should only take a second or two. Longer and your wearing the clutch to much. I usually begin the mix starting right off idle for parking lots and traffic jams up to about 1,500 RPM for an aggressive pull away. More that that has never been required as there is plenty of torque there to get started even on steep hills. The exact RPM and how fast I mix the throttle and clutch together depends on what I want that particular time. Getting smooth right off idle takes a bit of practice and is not suitable all the time. Practice to learn when.


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So I just took delivery of my 2014 GT with track package yesterday. This is the first manual trans car I have owned. I have driven stick a couple of times but my abilities are based off of riding motorcycles. That being said, I am struggling with the infamous first gear start! I don't stall it but the car shudders when it starts moving and the rpm's are below 1K. Initially I hold the car to 2K then slowly let out the clutch and adding more gas while trying not to build revs. I can't figure out if I'm not giving it enough gas or I'm letting out the clutch too quickly or not quick enough! I've seen countless videos and read articles but I would much rather hear it from people who actually drive my car and know its quirks. So any advice would be great!

For more control on the release of the clutch, I recommend keeping the heal of your left foot planted with your toe depressing the clutch at a 45 degree angle from the heel Sort of like keeping the left foot planted in the back slash position \ where the heel meets the heel of the right foot that is in a forward slash / position forming a an open V with the break in the middle.

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Everyone is correct in my experience- with time you'll get the hang of it. Though I suspect a mustang isn't the easiest car to learn on as the clutch has a little more heft than cars like a Civic.

What it sounds like you're experiencing is not enough throttle with the car bogs down. Starting off at 2k rpms is a bit on the excessive side. In reality you don't really need much rpm to get the car rolling smoothly from 1st.

The one's guy's advice about slowly letting the clutch out until the clutch grabs and you start moving, prior to using the throttle, isn't as bad one. In an ideal world you don't want to apply a lot of throttle before the car is moving---no need to tach up when you're just looking to leave a red light like everyone else. So the key is to raise the rpm's a little more than throttle and keep the tach needle at that point until the gear is fully engaged. So that will require you to modulate the throttle and clutch to maintain that rpm.
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I learned stick on my gt as well. One thing i couldnt get into my head was to keep easing the clutch out even once the car starts to get rolling. Gets rid of the jerks, burnouts, or even stalling.

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practice getting it rolling at idle (no throttle) just by going slowly on the clutch; soon you'll have the feel of it, then add throttle
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Steps to follow...

1. Press in clutch
2. Rev to 5k rpm's
3. Quickly release clutch
4. Floor it
5. Repeat


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these cars have a really high clutch engage point, no need to stomp on it, just lightly touch it and itll engage.

i learnt on mine too, took me bout a month to not stall at all

now im rev matching and burning out and driving with a cammed tune :nogrinner

only reason youll stall is by letting to clutch out too fast with not enough gas, dont focus on bringing up the revs at all, do this

have the clutch half way, give it the smallest amount of gas like 1300 rpms then as youre giving it more gas let go off the clutch slowly then when you feel it grab, let go.
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OK, now that you're moving, for normal street driving, take the car up to 2300 rpm, mash clutch, pull out of gear, let revs drop to 2000, and shove it into next gear. Should go right in. Alot of people rev match when downshifting, but don't do it while going up thru the gears.

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I'm from the learn how to get it going with no gas, just by learning the feel of the clutch. Well, that and what JR said about someone elses car. I want to add with the tight gates of the transmission when shifting from 1 to 2 keep a leftward pressure on the shifter or you can hit 4th (or get blocked) when trying for 3 or 4th just push the shifter forwards or back and let the centering springs find the gear for you. Also when going from 6 to 5 (exit ramp) keep pressure to the right or it's easy to hit 3rd instead. Learn that and then you can practice the 5 to 4 (or 3) downshift for two lane blacktop passing moves....thats the fun bit of a manual.

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Practice, practice, practice.

I was 19 and in the Air Force when I bought my first car. It was a little Honda 600, basically a manual car with a motorcycle engine.

A friend of mine said he would teach me so we went down to the dealer to pick it up. We were going back to the base where I could practice.

He was driving through downtown Spokane Washington and stopped at a red light. All of a sudden he gets out and says "you're driving". Traffic is backed up behind us, horns are blowing and I stall it 3 times. I finally got it to take off and made it back to the base without any more problems.

Nothing like a little pressure to learn real quick!!

I'm sure you will do just fine in a little bit of time.

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Congrats on your purchase. First thing, forget most of what you learned on a bike or else you are gonna burn up the clutch and hop the wheels in low gears.

It is okay to slip a little especially in first. Main thing is to make sure the engine is warmed up otherwise it will buck a ton in first. If it does buck and you are in an open area just clutch in and try again. Just practice and you will get the hang of it.

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Everyone says this but honestly shifting a motorcycle and shifting in a car are extremely similar. I know the bike uses a wet clutch so you can ride that thing all day but lets be honest that's not really possible in a car anyway. With both vehicles you slowly let the clutch out while giving it gas when shifting gears.
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Thanks for all the advice! Its funny because I am better when I don't think and just feel the car. I suppose all of you are right in that aspect, that you can't necessarily tell someone which rpm or how slow to let out the clutch. I'll admit, learning on a 3.73 may not be best way but I'll have this down by the end of the week!
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Some specifics on our cars;

Do not use force, do not try and force the car into gear if it doesn't want to go. The stick should slide easily and smoothly, so don't gorrilla-shift, shift gently.

You also have a 1st-to-4th skip-shift feature when you are going slow, so at times the car won't want to go into 2nd gear, so don't try and force it. Before I got my BAMA tune (which removed the skip-shift feature) I went into 3rd instead of 4th or 2nd. Be smooth, because using too much force will damage certain parts of the shifting mechanism.

Smooth and easy with the shifting. Clutching is a "feel" thing, you need to "feel" the engagement point, and then feather the clutch and throttle. I use very little clutch when shifting during normal driving, which saves my clutch.
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Some specifics on our cars;

Do not use force, do not try and force the car into gear if it doesn't want to go. The stick should slide easily and smoothly, so don't gorrilla-shift, shift gently.

You also have a 1st-to-4th skip-shift feature when you are going slow, so at times the car won't want to go into 2nd gear, so don't try and force it. Before I got my BAMA tune (which removed the skip-shift feature) I went into 3rd instead of 4th or 2nd. Be smooth, because using too much force will damage certain parts of the shifting mechanism.

Smooth and easy with the shifting. Clutching is a "feel" thing, you need to "feel" the engagement point, and then feather the clutch and throttle. I use very little clutch when shifting during normal driving, which saves my clutch.
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