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Barton Shifter 13 GT

Like some input from folks who have installed the Barton Short Throw shifter -

As I become more involved in drag racing I am becoming more and more unsatisfied with the stock shifter - especially at high rpm shifts - too much play etc - and room for error - some of course is driver issues but some is directly related to the stock shifter

It is about a 500 dollar investment with labor

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Barton makes a good piece, the con is their throw is reduced so much that when you try to shift fast it can be moving too fast internally for the trans and cause a missed shift.


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I installed it myself with the two post bracket in a gravel driveway with a jack and two jack stands... no sense in having a shop do it for you. The two post bracket is amazing. It holds the trans in one place with no flex or slop like the factory one. As for the shifter I didnt like it at first with how notchy it was. Car was new and so was the shifter. I assume as time went on the trans or the shifter or both got broke in and feels amazing now. From the center of the shift ball from first to second is about two inches Id say. The second to third is effortless but Im still not much for fourth to fifth. I have never experienced my shift being too fast to go into gear like the above mentioned.

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The Barton is a very nice piece, I have one and absolutely love love love it!

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I just installed the Barton shifter and 2 post mount and it is much more precise than the stock one. Not sure it would make all that much difference to someone just commuting to and from work but if you get the urge to get a little sporty you should notice a big improvement. If you have a lift or jackstands and a good floor jack it is not a difficult installation project. The only problem I had was that the reverse lockout lug was not set for my 2012 GT and it would not go into reverse. Once I figured out the shift handle had different reverse lockout lugs on both sides and could be rotated 180 degrees by backing out an allen head bolt, everything was fine. I wish I had put a dab of grease on the reverse blocker so that it would kick over into the neutral gate on it's own when pulled out of reverse.


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Mine sucked. 1>3 gate was so narrow it was hit or miss every time I shifted to 3rd. Almost caused a wreck so I sent it back to AM. I loved the short throw but wasn't worth the hassle. The bracket was very noisy as well and no better than a ES shift bushing IMO.

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I love mine. I installed the shifter and bracket in my garage with just a floor jack and jack stands also. My car would hardly go from 2nd to 3rd above 6k with the factory setup, but now it will slide right into 3rd at ANY rpm without any problem. It is a touch noisier, but the extra NVH is well worth the difference in the performance of the shifter.

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OP. The Barton is a fantastic shifter, I changed to a Tremec T56 and really miss the Barton. It is worth every penny IMO.

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post #9 of 37 (permalink) Old 08-21-2013 Thread Starter
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really great input - looks like about 90% for the shifter - the one worry was the comment about going into 3rd - wife also races the car and had a issue on a couple of runs of missing 4th and hitting 2nd makes it exciting - she is a great driver and got right out of it but got our attention -
based on what the feedback was a shifter is on the to do list along with a DDS - and after we get a lot better at driving a roush Stage one
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I recently installed the barton shifter & two post bracket on my 2013 GT. I'm very pleased with the performance of this shifter. Shifts are alot more crisp compared to the OEM shifter and bracket. There is a slight thunk from the shifter while changing gears. Personally I like this because this confirms that I'm in the gear I shifted to. Noise coming from the transmission is negligible. Mostly if you put slight pressure on the shifter knob while in gear. If you're not looking for the noise or if you have the radio on, you won't notice it. Overall I'm pleased with the new shifter & bracket.

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Mine sucked. 1>3 gate was so narrow it was hit or miss every time I shifted to 3rd. Almost caused a wreck so I sent it back to AM. I loved the short throw but wasn't worth the hassle. The bracket was very noisy as well and no better than a ES shift bushing IMO.
You must be a terrible driver, or got a bad unit.

This shifter + bracket combo cleaned my shifts up so much that I recommend this to everyone as a first mod if they ask.

This was by far my favorite mod, I would honestly put it over my supercharger. It gives you piece of mind, and confidence in your shifts.

I also agree that you should install it yourself unless you are either very uncoordinated, never turned a wrench in your life, or so rich that you dont mind wasting money. The install took me about 1 1/2 hours, and I did it in the driveway on ramps.



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I think this came from the factory on my 2014 and I love it, had read about manual trans shift issues before I bought the car but the Barton solves them! Love the short throw and solid feel!

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You must be a terrible driver, or got a bad unit.

This shifter + bracket combo cleaned my shifts up so much that I recommend this to everyone as a first mod if they ask.

This was by far my favorite mod, I would honestly put it over my supercharger. It gives you piece of mind, and confidence in your shifts.

I also agree that you should install it yourself unless you are either very uncoordinated, never turned a wrench in your life, or so rich that you dont mind wasting money. The install took me about 1 1/2 hours, and I did it in the driveway on ramps.
thats what I was thinking but took the high road lol, due to the dual pivot trunion, the Barton side to side throw is not greatly reduced like the Hurst or Steeda units which both use a single pivot.

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I'm located in NY so I drove down to the Barton shop and Dave installed it for free for me. Great unit, incredible improvement over the stock piece. I will say that it did take some getting used to but once you adjust to it, it's great.

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post #15 of 37 (permalink) Old 08-22-2013 Thread Starter
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thanks again for the input - as for installing it myself - no thank you--I would be in reverse going down the track

if you want anything done with regards to electronics I am the man - leave the gearhead stuff up to the gearheads - Just let me drive - I will pay to have it done right

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