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Cool How do you launch?

I have become a happy owner of '11 GT with 6MT and 3.73 axle. I had some pretty quick cars before but not THAT fast as this boy. Having practiced a couple of runs, I realize that any flooring during 1st gear leads to inevitable wheel spin. Even worse, the previous owner left the car with new but all-season tires (General GMAX2). According to MotorTrend, this car can go 0-60 in just 4.3 sec, but I definitely not even close to this time. I think I'm good with the shifting, but I can't understand what to do with the 1st gear - the wheel spin spoils the acceleration even if just I start harder from idling.

So, how do you launch you Pony from a light? Would be happy to hear advice from experienced owners

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Launch from a stoplight?

As in a race type launch?

You DON'T.

Take it to the track, once there you rev to around 3K and let the clutch out as quick as you can without dumping it, then roll into the throttle.


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get some upgraded lower control arms first, then if that doesnt do enough get some custom 19x10 rims and throw some sticky MT et streets on the back..

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you have to let the clutch out a little above idle and then roll onto the throttle.

if you just floor it and/or pop the clutch, you will fail.

if rolling onto the throttle after the clutch is out causes wheelspin issues, get better tires.

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Launch from a stoplight?

As in a race type launch?

You DON'T.

Take it to the track, once there you rev to around 3K and let the clutch out as quick as you can without dumping it, then roll into the throttle.
I don't know what you mean by a "race type" launch I can accelerate until allowed speed limit (55 + 5 = 60mph) any way I prefer. That's why I'm asking about 0-60, not a 1/4 mile.
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First, you buy new tires and lightweight wheels.

Then, you leave from about 2500 with deliberate clutching. No side stepping.

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On the street with any sort of tire that isn't a street radial, just leave at low rpm and roll into the throttle, otherwise it's spin city
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I don't know what you mean by a "race type" launch I can accelerate until allowed speed limit (55 + 5 = 60mph) any way I prefer. That's why I'm asking about 0-60, not a 1/4 mile.
You can get ticketed for excessive acceleration in most places... The cops around here will track you down for chirping the tires if they hear it.

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Like everyone else said. 3k rpm, let the clutch out without dumping then roll on the throttle. If you get excited it won't work.

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Luckily, I just let launch control take care of it.

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I don't know what you mean by a "race type" launch I can accelerate until allowed speed limit (55 + 5 = 60mph) any way I prefer. That's why I'm asking about 0-60, not a 1/4 mile.

Not to be a smart ass but Illinois 55 means 60? If that’s the case then the 4.3 seconds to 60 must be 4.8 seconds in Illinois…
OK going to leave the politics out of this one…

To launch these cars on street tires is not hard it just, it just takes a lot of practice, for me anyway, and I still don’t own it…
Lots…
You want to do two things,,, not spin the tires and not bog the engine… So… We will talk about tire slippage and not tire spin… OK following me? OK.. Slippage is slightly faster tire rotations then the car is traveling in the same direction. Spin, tire is traveling at a greater amount of speed (rotations) then the object it is pushing\pulling enough to causes heat to make a noise or produce smoke… Got me…
OK…
So to launch you have to slip the clutch enough to cause tire slippage while not bogging the engine and not enough to smoke the clutch as well… Best way to start, go to the most stop light ridden part of town, city whatever you want to call it and just notice the way you leave a stop light, driving as if a police car was behind you… No, not like you just robbed a bank and his lights are on… No, not like you just had a sixer with your buddies.. more like a civilized human being would, nice and smooth… OK get how to release the clutch? Do you have that picture now? Do the same when you drag race with street tires…

Right foot on the gas… holding somewhere close to 2000 RPMS… Left foot on the clutch, level ground no need to hold the brake…
In a synchronized motion right foot goes down left foot comes up… The hardest part, the faster you go at this the more chance you have for tire spin… The slower you go at this the greater chance you have for excessive clutch abuse…
Like I said this technique calls for a lot of practice, once you get it you will have the best 60’ times on street tires and this is a start to your 0 to 60 MPH times…

With a set of slicks it is same technique just higher start RPM and faster foot movements.

Excessive Clutch Slippage
Corvette Z06 - Burnout Fail! - YouTube

This person was too slow with thier left foot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LzYcn4m0GQ

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Not to be a smart ass but Illinois 55 means 60? If that’s the case then the 4.3 seconds to 60 must be 4.8 seconds in Illinois…
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]OK going to leave the politics out of this one…
Posted limit 55 + the 5mph buffer = 60.

What he stated it that way = unknown.


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Excessive Clutch Slippage
Corvette Z06 - Burnout Fail! - YouTube
*sniff* *sniff*..... is that friction disk smoke i smell? looks like someone will be purchasing a new clutch....

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This thread is making Me think, I need to go out to a parking lot and practice again.

One year ago, I learned to drive stick in my mustang. I got pretty good for a noob, but Since then I've only been driving sporadicly. And I've reverted to gas in, then clutch out, instead of the smoothness I once had.

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Launch from a light ? I come out easy. Otherwise, its a great smoke and burnout show. But then again, the burnout shows are fun .Sometimes.


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